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Not sure why this made me literally lol. But it did. It's the irony of Margo possibly stabilising, while Venus is nose diving. Not funny at all, really. Margo is giving off some sedate as fuck vibes tho. Is weed legal in Switzerland? 😂
Gotta' admit it, I too expected her to have a Chernobyl sized melt down. I think 1/2 of her restraint is translated into snark (that video where she mocks V's marriage), and the other 1/2 comes from knowing that people are onto her. Narcs like being in control of their image... and she lost that. Between the KF informant, and common sense, we all know what's up with the woman. The puzzle has been solved. (But, I'm reeeeeeally interested to hear her spin story!) Admitting she was detained and deported would be embarrassing. No wonder she's passive aggressive, at best. I don't think she's "woke". I think she's humbled. Worst thing possible, to an Overt Narc.
She's answering some of the tough questions, but she is undeniably burnt out and un-enthused. She just looks numb. Question 1 was IMPORTANT. The way she shrugs it off passive aggressively is annoying. She didn't have to include it, but she just clearly wanted to take a jab at this VALID point of view. Such blatant and utter denial. She wants to be ignorant about this topic. She'll cringe at her response, when she's well. Re: Sex Life Video deletion, and the incoming part 2 ... for fucks sake. Even if her "presentation" is cleaner than a bottle of Fuji Spring Water, keep it off the web! You'd think she'd learn the 1st time. Get back on meds, and talk to your therapist. Not the internet... Re: "Go to the police at 14"... yup. She hit that nail on the head. Re: Going back to school "when she has the time for it"...
"What do you do when you're down?" Her A to the Q just proves how uncomfortable she is, with recognizing her self destructive cycle. She doesn't just "sit down and try not to think about anything" aka disassociate. She streams, edge-lord vague-posts, cries for help, drinks, and all sorts of other shit she's in denial about. Q: "Do negative opinions affect you?" A: "No." (Mooooore denial.) She's so wrapped up in denial, self loathing, and attention seeking.
annnnnnd I stopped watching it there. It's too much. I know folks mentioned she admitted to falling off track with meds and therapy. If there was anything else of substance, post it? Ty.
No offence. But Venus just does not care about you, or any of her fans. Or stans. Or supporters. She is focused more on haters. Hence her "lolcow" Freudian Slips. I understand that's terrible. But her actions speak for themselves. Actions speak louder than words. I hope her empathic followers, like you, realize this. Detatch now. You can save yourself from a world of emotional investment, disappointment, and grief. Personal Note:
Fucking hell!! Ty for the comedic relief
"Venus needs some one to save her". "Venus needs to save herself." I've been teetering back and forth, between these 2 points of view. So what do we know, regardless of our opinions here? 1. Venus is in therapy, voluntarily. She is self aware, at least a little. She knows she's ill. She knows she wants better. 2. Venus had a support network of close friends. (Looks like they are now, for whatever reason, gone... but looks can be deceiving. We don't have all the facts.) 3. Even people who know they are ill, and have dozens of people who intervene, (interventions), rarely heal, unless they are good and ready. My opinion has changed... only Venus can help herself. She is at an all time low. That's a scary looking place, for anyone. She is broadcasting it too, for money and attention. She's lonely, and pushed away people in real life, so now she turns to the internet. She may not see it that way, due to her lack of impulse control, but I think that's what's going on. She's probably addicted to the attention and validation from her fans. She does have an addictive personality, so anything that provides Dopamine is the Holy Grail.
Even if she had a large group of friends and family sit her down, and beg her to get well, I doubt she'd comply. She's not done. This shit takes time. It just looks like it's taking long, because she's being totally transparent. Rock bottom can be a month... 6 months... YEARS. It just depends on when her mental state is ready to ditch the denial, and square off with genuine PAIN. Not Tabasco Sause pain. Inner chaos and core turmoil. The shit she's been harboring for years. The shit she still harbors. She's SO not there. And yeah... No one can force her to get there. Venus needs to save herself.
Let em' have discord. It's the echo chamber they've wanted for so long. I never understood the point of joining a gossip forum, and expecting everyone to always agree. Even her supporters here (self included) can think critically enough to not blindly defend her toxicity. It's refreshing to see this thread is taking this turn towards free speech, withthout getting harassed by mindless lemmings. Audios WKs. Hope it continues. right? Caffeine and alcohol are a great combination for dehydration, nausea, and heart palpitations. Smh. Yeah, looked it up. It was basically weight loss soup.
Personal thoughts on the blind irony of Intensive Care: Anyway, I hope this is her rock bottom too. I can imagine other rock bottom scenarios close to this- deportation, homelessness, joblessness. Lack of education causing MAJOR issues. Everyone around her just so sick of the bullshit that they completely abandon her. Obviously a lot of projected fears. But probably a few valid concerns. If this aint her "rock bottom" I don't wanna think about things getting worse... which they always can.
I think you've made some really valid points. It's just really hard to see past the sheer fuckery, regardless of addled mind and body. People believe she is an adult, and should be held accountable for her actions. Personally, I never thought about how her biological catastrophes could affect her mental instabilities. What you say sounds 100% valid, in that regard. I'm just not convinced she's having such a severe breakdown, that she may pass out, or die... and everyone is watching while doing nothing. Her roommate, whoever it is, would report her to authorities. If not out of compassion, out of simply wanting a stable 'home'. I do think you nailed it though: her therapy 1x a week is like a bandaid for a broken leg. This woman needs FAR more intensive care. I think Venus is lonely, and broadcasting every bit of her despair. To what end, who knows? And, I agree: she's not thinking clearly, or taking care of her body. I'm just skeptical about her being so far gone, that she has zero autonomy or self awareness. She probably isn't thinking about the consequences of her actions. She's making choices soley off of emotions, and reactivity, which is a bad way to live. But that's all, imo. (And... I hope.)
TLDR: I don't think she's about to die. I just think she hit rock bottom.
I don't know how long you've been here, but the majority consensus about Venus always goes back and forth. Right now, the majority of this thread seems to be swinging into a more critical stance towards her. This is the first swing I've noticed, since 2017. Either way, choosing 1 member to represent the whole community is unjust. And, making passive aggressive statements about your displeasure adds nothing to the overall discussion. Instead, why not make an actual case for your opinion? ((edit: again. this was not an attack.))