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  1. Venusangelic drama in a nutshell:

    1. Xiaorishu drama:

    https://tune.pk/video/1335291/Cyberbullying
    Video of Xiao explaining her side of the story.

    Summary:
    Xiao made a support video for VA, who got it taken down because she felt like Xiao was being a "fame sucker".
    Later on, Marg attacked her on Twitter and even leaked her phone number...


    ... But of course, Margaret and Venus still presented themselves as the real victims



    A Few screenshots from Xiao:

    2. Kimonotime drama:

    http://kimonotime.tumblr.com/post/20910 ... ys-one-big
    Pretty much the same thing all over again. Kimonotime is a fame sucker because she tried to take a pic with her at a convention, and she's copying Venus because she's cute, dancing and interested in japan, and we all know that Venus invented cuteness, dancing and being interested in foreign cultures. To me, the most shocking thing is that Margaret actually made fun of Kelsey's glass eye on her blog.

    3. Anastasiya drama:

    Both girls met each other in poland where they appeared at a talkshow, and they also got the chance to make some videos together. Venus uploaded 2 videos to her channel: One with both girls just messing around, and one where they're trying to do the gangnam style dance. Anastasiya repeatedly asked Venus to take both videos down because she "didn't like the way she looked", but the latter refused. At one point Nastya even had to flag her own video...
    (Sorry, I don't have any screenshots anymore. If anybody else is able to provide them: Thank you)
    ... But it was back up again shortly after. Ana then made another public plea via Youtube comment - causing a mini-shitstorm - and Venus finally gave in
    Venus also uploaded a picture of both of them where Venus looked pretty but Ana was squinting. Of course she also refused to take that down.

    Literally months later, Margaret posted this rant...
    ...on her Facebook page, accusing Anastasiya of threatening Venus.
    Her only proof? This:

    4. Attempted scams:

    1. "Venus Angelic Boutique"
    All the items she was planning to offer were blatant overpriced resells from this shop:
    http://www.amandacoleman.co.uk/shop_by_collection.php
    ... and she never mentioned this seller at all. Sure, this never became a thing, but I think it deserves to be called an attempted scam.

    2. German private school scam.
    http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/venus ... -to-school

    3. Kickstarter/Album scam.
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ve ... d-art-book
    Asking for money to record some songs, but never provided a sample of herself singing.

    4. Stealing from SassyNPunk:
    http://abi-pop.tumblr.com/post/22871103 ... sive-drama

    5. "Inspiring people to be themselves"
    "I dress like a doll all the time"

    Translation:
    Q: Your style is slowly changing, isn't it? Your new shirt that says "Geek" (or something like that) looks a bit different. Pretty anyways!
    A: I wouldn't really say that my style is changing! A doll can wear whatever she wants to and she will still look dolly!
    Whenever somebody asks her why she dresses like a doll, she's always going to respond that it's because of her doll-like face. She is "the doll" because she is beautiful, however in interviews and documentaries, she's always claiming that she inspires people to be themselves, which is quite contradictory. If you believe that it's a person's facial beauty that makes you a "living doll", you don't encourage people to try out the "dolly" style, you do the opposite.

    6. Faked Bodyline contest entry for "My Strange Addiction"
    & Fan manipulation to look popular on cam
    (not really that important but whatever)
    Well, she never mentioned the presence of cameras AT ALL
    Trying to sound like she cares about her fans, when actually she just wanted to look "famous"

    7. Bra shaming


    8. Fat shaming
    Venus' contest entry for Joma: Stretching herself for "entertainment purposes" and suggesting that you "have a laugh" because fat people are hilarious.

    "But Selenite, she only did it because it would look sooo funny if she had super long arms while dancing! She's not meant to represent a fat person!" you say? OH RLY? This is how she advertised her video on her Twitter, clearly calling her distorted self a "fatty".

    Some negative reactions she got so far. If course she didn't feel the need to apologize or set the record straight. Screw these people, it's their fault for being oversensitive and not ~getting~ her.


    9. Inappropriate videos and tags



    And then there are some nitpicky details such as faking her voice pitch, pretending to be innocent while doing suggestive things and stealing ideas while accusing others of being copycats, but these things are pretty tame compared to the other things that have been listed here, so I'm not going to go into detail.

    All the credits go to everyone that captured the drama and the screenshots, I only gathered the information from the old Pull. Feel free to add anything else!

  2. I find her twitter interesting to look/laugh at and it pretty much describes her as a snowflake like an open book.
    Interesting she tagged her mother on her twitter bio.



    She retweeted this.
    so her angelic nights or her mom could come and defend her.
    The convo between the users if anyone is interested to read

    It's funny as well how she retweets people who complement her mostly of old men watching her on the big screen lol
  3. Post on Manaki in Venus Angelic

    By echo, posted
    This is a thread about Manaki, formerly Venus' obssesed fan, now husband.
    Timeline of events (going off memory, let me know if wrong or something is missing)
    2011 - Manaki met Venus in Disney land
    2015 - Manaki and Venus are dating
    2016 - Manaki and Venus are married
    2016 - Venus escapes her mother and lives with Manaki
    2017 - Venus had a problem with the weight loss surgery and was in the hospital
    2018 - All Manaki videos are deleted
    2019 - Venus is acting flirtatious with girls and announces she's bi
    2019 - Venus claims that Manaki was abusive
    What's next?


    Original post (2016, kept for archival purposes)
  4. ➤ General Venus Angelic Sub-Forum Rules [READ FIRST]:
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/1358-venus-angelic-subforum-rules-read-before-posting/

    ➤ To discuss Venus’ videos post here:
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/11-venus-angelics-videos/

    ➤ To discuss Venus’ photos/shooping specific post here:
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/232-venus-angelics-general-photos-and-photoshopping-discussion/

    ➤ To discuss Manaki specifically post here:
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/1206-manaki/

    ➤ To discuss Margo (Venus’ mother) specifically post here:
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/34-margaret-palermo/

    ➤ Old General Venus Threads:
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/2085-general-venus-angelic-thread-3/
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/1260-general-venus-angelic-thread-2/
    https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/12-general-venus-angelic-thread/


    VENUS ANGELIC TLDR:
    - Kawaii living teen doll YouTuber
    - Emotionally abused by narc mother Margo for years, forced into online life as a cash cow
    - Scammed a bunch of people
    - Married a Japanese citizen via the name of Manaki for supposed green card
    - Ran away from Margo to live with Manaki
    - Tried to rebuild image, more kawaii videos now with Manaki
    - Cheated on Manaki repeatedly
    - Had illegal weight loss surgery that almost killed her
    - Separated from Manaki, went on downward spiral boozing and titty streaming, Manaki deleted all socials.
    - Abandoned YouTube for OnlyFans
    - Trying to cash in on OnlyFans, appears to be living back at Manaki’s but still separated.