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I know she's lied a lot and done a lot of stuff for attention but... I mean... without proof, I don't think we should jump to the conclusion that her coming out is a lie. I just think it's something that doesn't deserve much attention (I didn't really read most of her post tbh, nor the two posts she updated after the previous one was deleted) considering people's sexualities are their business, although I guess for coming outs, pride, and just general sexuality discussions it is relevant and important. still, I don't find it very note worthy whether it's true or not. if it's true, then I'm glad she's speaking up about it; I'm sure it's good for a lot of asexuals.
I'm honestly surprised more people didn't realize at the beginning how photoshopped she is. 1) she shrinks herself to a completely unrealistic size (like... where the fuck are her ribs?) and 2) in every picture posted on this thread she looks completely different (her face, at least). she also looks like she is a painting more than a model being photographed, which is a pretty huge indicator of an insane amount of photoshop. also, no offense but up until the last page or so, the comments here seemed to be mostly coming from proana/promia people who praised her for being thin and attractive when she was clearly emaciated and bordering on Eugenia's size. Maybe that's why they didn't notice how inhuman she looked. About her surgeries; yep, she's gotten a lot of them and it's made her face look bloated and just generally botched, however, in her most recent posts, she seems to sort of embrace it. you can clearly see when she ran out of old pictures to repost and started only posting regular, depressing screen caps and photographs with the very occasional throwback. even so, she has posted an unphotoshopped video of her which shows her lumpy lips, puffy face (due to excessive fillers), and unnaturally large cheekbones. she also posted selfies that, while still photoshopped, seem a whole world away from how she used to photoshop herself. she even posted a body picture that I think may not be altered (take it with a grain of salt; I know very little about photoshop so for me to spot it, it has to be really obvious like looking like a 2D painting, noticeably bendy walls and excessively blurry skin) and looks a lot more human
> I agree, her abuse shouldn't be invalidated, but she did some very bad things while under "his influence" and has come out publicly to talk about him but not to own up to what she did. that's the problem. > so I'm not getting it... how long ago did she make these tracks? didn't she just very recently break up with titanic? wouldn't that mean that she'd been working on those tracks while she was still dating him..? not only that, but wouldn't she have recorded these while she was still dating him?
have you guys seen edwin's new video about poppy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy9v6VE7GLA while I think he was a bit insensitive with some things that are usually a clear sign of abuse and chalked them up to her personal character rather than an emotionally abused person's, he was definitely right about poppy never actually apologizing to mars for all the things she did/said to her. she downplayed them greatly, when in reality she was 100% an accomplice to titanic during the lawsuit and basically called her a liar and bat shit crazy. her apology feels like a manipulation strategy tbh. the comment section is really good, too. edwin asked for opinions and people are giving him very level headed opinions. most comments mention the fact that he doesn't seem to have any knowledge about emotional abuse victims (even though mina was also emotionally abused and manipulated) but yeah. although there are some really angry comments telling him he's basically trash for victim blaming although imo he never shamed poppy for being a victim; he just didn't notice that many of her behaviors were completely normal for a victim of abuse (he talked about her choosing to shut out family and friends when it is usually one of the first tactics abusers use to isolate and control their victim) and that some of titanic's actions were 100% abuse tactics (he said we should feel sorry for titanic because he "attempted" suicide and reached out to fans because he surely must feel so depressed and alone... when it was an obvious tactic to manipulate poppy, the fans, and one that mars had stated in her lawsuit that he had used multiple times with her). I think it was a rushed video without enough thought into it, but the concept that poppy isn't blameless for her actions seems important enough to me to link the video. mental illness does not excuse shitty behavior, and that's poppy's case. she deliberately berated mars, and now, she claims to have suffered the same abuse without even mentioning any sort of regret for publicly coming at mars. screenshots of some of the top comments on the video:
okay so why are people going so hard on jennie for "not looking happy" or "not smiling all the time" like??? they're people too. regardless of your job, you're never going to look happy all the time and I don't see why people expect so much from idols. it's not like we expect that much happiness irradiating from regular celebrities. and yeah, I've heard time and time again the argument that "that's what idols are supposed to do; being an idol is extremely hard and if they don't want to put work in it, then they just shouldn't be idols" so basically if you're not able to be a robot, you can't try to share your talent with the world if you're korean? seriously? the k-pop industry has being widely criticized over and over again for being far too hard on their idols, striving for "perfection". it is known that many, if not most female idols have serious eating disorders to keep up with this perfection standard. they get harassed and bullied by "fans" when they're not 110% perfect. they get dropped by their agencies if they don't seem perfect enough. it's something that many people believe should change, including some ex-idols that make youtube videos about how harsh the industry is and how against it they are. smiling all the time doesn't seem realistic. everyone has bad days and some people are just naturally serious. I just don't think being a k-pop star should mean they are doing a shitty job if they're not constantly smiling and laughing. jennie has talent, like all the other girls in the group, and she has never been exposed for mistreating anyone which, to me, is good enough.
so @celebbeforeafter on insta posted this girl and, well... I think it's safe to say that no one is going to be wondering whether or not it's considered blackfishing. https://www.instagram.com/p/B5-nGQsI942/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
exactly! for pages and pages it was discussed whether poppy was an accomplice in everything or just another victim of titanic's but tbh, I don't care how much titanic may have manipulated her, it was her decision to cover up for him and even help him out many, many times (berating and invalidating mars argo's claims of severe abuse) to come out scot-free from stalking and verbally abusing mars.
jesus those gifs highlight two things: 1) how awkward she looked (especially when she looked like she was having a hard time taking off the jacket and then proceeded to sing holding it while it was only half on??? like, it got stuck on her arm and she rolled with it or was maybe just holding it so it wouldn't fall to the floor) 2) her tip is looking droopier and droopier again. idk what she's done to her nose but if several nose jobs to fix it haven't worked, I'm guessing it's terrible for her health. edit: oh!!!! and like someone said earlier, she looks like she's trying to imitate taylor momsen. the hair, the "raspier, sexier" voice, and the awkward movements (although this one is not only taylor momsen's, a lot of rock stars and rock star wannabes try to emulate these jerky, disjointed movements).
okay so I watched the video and this song is definitely the best out of all the one's she's put out so far. I actually like it tbh. however... she looks really off. especially her lips. it looks like my bottom lip when I pinch it with my fingers to try to whistle loudly. sort of like the photo I'll be putting up in a spoiler. that makes it look so painfully weird and awkward, especially since she's trying to portray half the acting she's doing on her lips. also, I agree with everyone else; her acting is absolutely dreadful. it looks so awkward and disjointed. I like the concept she's trying to pull off with the whole I love it but I hate it thing going on, but she's just overdoing it too much. and last but not least; as her second (or third?) video in which basically all that's going on is her trying her best to look attractive in front of the camera, I'm surprised her fans aren't noticing how narcissistic she is. it looks pretty bad tbh.
I think people see a resemblance because dove used to be really light skinned (now with fake tans and filters I don't see much resemblance) and has very light blonde hair. I'm pretty sure people would claim any pale white celebrity with light blonde hair could pass off as elsa.
also, these comparisons are pretty fkin interesting to me because she said long ago she recovered from her ED and gained a serious amount of weight but... I see absolutely no change. in the before picture, she was dealing with her ED and on the after picture, she's supposedly already recovered. honestly it doesn't look like she's gotten better at all. her current poses and the contrast she puts in her picture seem to aim solely at making her bones (collarbones specifically) and neck muscles more visible which (and I am by no means armchairing) is very common in the ana community. also, her fake boobs highlight how little fat she has on her upper body.
sorta OT and too personal but I'm average height and when I was pretty underweight, I had a 22-23inch waist and, like you said, I had very little fat in that area. I have never seen or heard of someone (no matter the height) who wasn't clearly very very thin or very very fit, at least on the torso area, who had that waist size. she 110% does not fall into any of those two categories.