Hi all, I paid the server bill for the month so the site can be archived, sorry for the mess, didn't realize there'd be such an uproar. The site's in read-only mode. Happy archiving. Here's a link to a user-made PULL discord server: https://discord.gg/vZFEm75
whatever happens, this site honestly became one of my top 3 websites in the past couple of years. it was really neat to be able to read up on drama when I was bored and to be able to read anything people added to the threads while I was taking a small break from studying. it was also really cool how many rules were in place to keep people in check, and how most keyword, most arguments were dealt with in a mature manner. I'm really gonna miss this site. speaking of reddit, actually... is there an r/pull? it would by no means be the same as the actual PULL but maybe for those of us who still want to keep going with PULL, it'd also be a nice alternative.
OT because this has nothing to do with dove: PS shouldn't be the norm, I agree. however, the ability to choose to do with yourself whatever makes you feel good about yourself is empowering. some people are never going to be able to love everything about themselves so choosing to change something they don't like is perfectly fine as long as it's done understanding what it means and knowing that it won't change your actual worth, just make you more comfortable with what you look like. also, everyone has insecurities, regardless of plastic surgery. tons of people don't "accept their true self" without ever getting plastic surgery. PS should not be an indicator of someone's self-esteem, especially since a lot of people who do it don't actually feel ashamed of their original features, they just feel more comfortable with different ones.
this!!! she completely cut off one of her best friends for caring about her clearly deteriorating health but she can forgive people for being anti-semitic, borderline pedophilic, and just generally complete bullies? I don't know eugenia personally so I can't make a judgement about her full character with as little as I know (I've never even watched one of her videos tbh) but this just makes her look awful. I imagine being forced into inpatient treatment must've been pretty traumatic for someone who was so set in her ways and so completely unaware of her illness despite being a walking skeleton, but she should also try to understand her friend. she was literally watching her friend starve herself to death and that must've been really traumatic to jaclyn as well. I hate blaming people for hurting others through hurting themselves but she should have a little bit of empathy towards the people she loves too; if not to try to get better, than at least to understand the incredible amount of stress she puts on them by killing herself slowly in front of them. Edit: "Fun Facts: Jeffree talked about pouring battery acid on a woman of color Jeffree has called women of color gorillas and rats Jeffree has said the N word multiple times Jeffree was friends with a pedophile AND SINCE HE LIED IN HIS APOLOGY: Jeffree has been arrested for hitting females from 17-20 Jeffree has spent nights in jail Jeffree has posted revenge porn (that’s a crime) Jeffree has lied to the police (that’s a crime) Jeffree has black mailed 3 confirmed people!"
I gotta respectfully disagree tbh. I think with how far she's gone with her brand (pretending to masturbate, sucking a dildo, humping a dildo naked), she is already considered adult entertainment by everyone. ig already banned her for it, I don't remember but I think her tiktok got deleted too? as long as she doesn't show those things on SFW platforms, she won't be banned. as in, she is pushing it as far as she can on yt (like someone else pointed out, a lot of music videos resemble her's in NSFW status and they're allowed) for example, which is why she hasn't been banned. but no future employer is ever going to look at her and say "oh, okay, well, it's not like you did actual porn so you're good to go". I really don't think there's anything left for her to lose in that front. the only reason she doesn't do it is because she knows that keeps the simps interested for longer imo.
tbh I think lisa still looked really low energy? idk if she's always been like that though, I'd never really watched encore stages and other non-choreo related videos of them. and yeah, jennie and rosé pretty much didn't interact except for when rosé backed up into jennie and made a hand gesture to apologize. I guess it doesn't mean there's beef between them but they definitely don't seem close
I remember forever ago, a friend of mine showed me belle delphine for the first time and scrolling way down, I looooved her edgy but soft look. her makeup was on point, the room setting too, and I loved her outfits. but then I scrolled to her most recent posts and they were absolutely awful, wasting food and expensive items (not to be that person but if you have enough money to buy 3 MacBooks to smash them for a 6 second video, why not donate it to people who need it?!?!) and saw her photoshopped face to hell and back and any liking I had for her was gone. in the first makeup picture you posted, she looks GORGEOUS. I think she already photoshopped herself back then but she definitely looked better and more human than the blurry blob she turned into. it really bothers me when shitty people (who scam, who waste things instead of giving them a good use or to people who need them, who steal people's nudes?!?!) have so much talent and it's especially annoying in her case because she is insanely creative and talented imo and she could put out some really bomb content if she tried. I've seen sex workers with her same sense of aesthetic make some incredible content (and be in the top numbers in OF and MFC) by taking that aesthetic into account. idk, I'm honestly salty she has so much talent. her simps think we envy her for being shooped to hell and back but tbh, this is the only thing I genuinely envy her for.
to be fair, indigo is 100% jealous of belle and has been spreading hatred for her for a whiiiile even though she low-key constantly tried to copy her. I'd take anything she says about belle with a boulder of salt tbh.
you're right, despite still being painfully blurred, you can at least see her chin in the purple picture. also, her real features (i.e. slightly less edited lips that look way bigger than she used to edit them as). I feel like she came back with better self-esteem, especially because of her comeback video in which a lot of her natural features showed.
I'm sorry but I just can't not post a comparison. I'm not good with editing but picture that same facebook post, with that same caption, and instead of cartoon-ish belle, you see this pfp looking back at you:
lmao not to be insensitive because I know sadness/melancholy doesn't have one specific look but this feels like a parody. a kinda deep, sad post and then a picture of what looks like a very exaggerated cartoon girl smiling and... lmao it feels like irony and I cannot believe she is trying to portray real human feelings of sadness coupled with her edited self that looks like vanellope.
I don't really know that much about kpop but from what I gather, the artists usually have very little to no control over their image. they just roll with what they companies tell them to do and since they have to sign NDAs (I think?) with their contracts, in most cases they can't even talk about how they were treated by their companies even after their groups disband/they stop working with said company. I think nowadays they have a lot more liberties than they used to (I also heard - I could totally be wrong - that they usually got paid very little and most profits went to their companies) but maybe it's a lot more the company's fault than the artists. in the case of western singers, I definitely would expect them to speak up on such issues and would immediately assume they chose the concept for their videos. for example, when selena gomez did a performance wearing indian clothes, I figured it was entirely on her to speak up about it, but I just can't feel the same about idols. please do correct me if I'm wrong, btw.
I normally find her singing pretty nice, but I checked out the story because of this comment and it made my ears hurt + I think she was flat at some points. it was like she got flat at some notes and tried to cover it up with more singing in a different tone and it felt like a mess. I genuinely couldn't tell if she was a good singer or a bad/average singer trying to hide her mistakes.
tbh, using myself as a reference (height and weight), I do think 25inches for her waist is realistic, assuming she is as fit as she seems in some of her candids. her waist may be wide from the front but her stomach is very flat so it still probably makes up for a 25inch waist.