General Venus Angelic Thread #3

[Qualle]

Seriously, how difficult can it be to look at PULL for Venus' side of the story + proof in form of screenshots and deleted videos? Like come on... It's not like it's super complicated to find anything of that, so he literally has zero excuses for that bullshit video. But funny how he screenshots "hate comments" and obviously lurks, but nicely ignores any citicism. Hopefully he's not having his finals in anything related to journalism...

[InterestingLegalQuestions]

What you are looking for is this:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802268?hl=en

And these are the rules:

Harassment may include :

• Abusive videos, comments, messages
• Revealing someone’s personal information
• Maliciously recording someone without their consent
• Deliberately posting content in order to humiliate someone
• Making hurtful and negative comments/videos about another person
• Unwanted sexualization, which encompasses sexual harassment or sexual bullying in any form
• Incitement to harass other users or creators

Now I will say that Venus is the one that will stand a better chance at filing a complaint mostly because she is the one being affected and she is the one that can turn to youtube and say what is a lie and what is the truth. But those private emails from Manaki revealing private information that can potentially embarrass him plus dragging him into this whole thing when he has done the right thing up to now (avoid getting more involved and when necessary protecting Venus from her mother) is the bigger issue here. Obviously you look at the rest and you know its not exactly correct but that will easily spiral into a "she said she said" situation and nobody is going to read anything written here or on instagram so you are left pleading case of how this is only another negative video for clickbait. The easiest point for an outsider is to show outrage for how Manaki was treated in the video.

So, it would be a case of pointing out that he did not give consent to have those private emails made public and how this is humiliating for him. Your personal life is your personal life and Manaki doesn't need to see the video to be affected by it so anyone can point out how it was incorrect and immoral (hopefully youtube actually read these complaints and doesn't just use another automated bot or untrained human drone because this is a substantial issue). Also the supposed cheating photo is also not something he should have included because it is unclear if it is her and is being used to speculate on some story about her plus it is revealing part of someone's uncovered butt/lower leg which once again is there without consent if it was Venus or is being maliciously used by Margarete to try and hurt Venus if its not her.

If you feel really strongly about the video then you should start by reporting those private emails because that is clearly a gigantic no no. Then you can write something how this is being solely used to hurt Venus (both personally and publicly). But please please please download the video before that because that video is bad for Margarete.

Personally, in a case like this I'd say that Venus is the person that should decide. She either goes to war now or goes to war later on.

- If she wants to go to war now and then she just needs to file her claims about how Margarete found a puppet to harass her and how this video is leading people to harass her plus how many claims are not properly substantiated plus how the bias paints a negative image on her and her youtube channel plus how Manaki has been very badly treated in the video. That might make some people get annoyed with her but you have the right to defend your good name.

- The alternative is for her take this opportunity and make a positive out of it. She has a lot of eyes on her right now waiting for a reaction so she can take the opportunity to make a video to sway more opinions and get more fans (like previous videos and instagram posts). She can start with something like "I heard there is this video out there that says some incorrect things about my situation" and "this video is biased from the beginning because it only concentrated on one person's side of the story" then the hook "I don't want to create more drama and negativity, I just want to continue on my life without my mother like any adult and want to do positive things with my life" and then create some uplifting video about what she has learnt up to now and what she has learnt from all this travelling/adventures and what would be positive. Something like a "follow your own dreams" where Venus talks about what her first dreams were and how life's twists on turns lead to an erratic path and what dreams she now has. She has to weave her experiences into a positive story highlighting how she now is taking the rest of her trip with Manaki and talk about dreams that she wishes to accomplish in the next 5 years. Also this can't be a short 2-3 min thing. It has to be a lot more substantial and as the guy is using that 10min youtube hack she should get a clock or something and put it in a small window somewhere counting up to 10 min so that she has an incentive to go far and to bring in more experiences and more dreams. I know, this is an extremely crappy and corny plot line but with all these eyes on her she should definitely plan a long uplifting positive video where she is clear in saying that now its her life and that's how she wants to live it. That guys was only looking for clickbait and hate and so on to generate more views and get more people to visit his crappy youtube page (last week he had 50k subscribers and now he has 100k) and get more people to view his comments and if his video gets taken down then he'll create another one about "bully Venus" and her "bully fans" and it'll be a never ending cycle that he wants to instigate forever (and so does Margarete). The best way to fight public hate and negativity is by going the other way and trying to point out how you only want to focus on positivity and want to be a light in the community. Obviously, after a few months and after all this dies out you unleash the hounds of war and sue the shit of them and take everything the judge let's you take.

The most admired public figures are always those that take the chance to fight back by bringing the game into their own world. Hate mongerers try to drag you into their world and when they do they generally win (I think US politics this week is good example of that) while insightful inspiring people convince you to go into their world where they generally win.

Right now Venus has a choice. Hope that things will blow over, which they will not. Call them to attention, that means going into Margarete's web of lies and hate. Or, take the lemons they gave her, add strawberries, raspberries, sugar, etc and something good of it. If you guys really want to help then give Venus incentives to make something good out of this. Start contacting her are telling her that you want something positive and uplifting. Even if you want to say "I don't like this video or that hair" go right afterwards and say that you love this or that about her and would love to see this or that. Having Venus carve her own path when faced with adversity will only help her public image.

Edited 21 Jul 2016 by InterestingLegalQuestions

[Red Paint]

hi guys, lurker here!

I want to punch that Vexxed guy in the face so bad his video is BULLSHIT and I can't believe people are actually believing Margo and this guy, like.... why?? people are commenting on Venus videos thing like "ur a cunt, u cheated on ur husband", "ur a fraud", "glad Vexxed showed ur tru colors" and it's making me mad aggggh

Gah, people really can't seem to think for themselves. Nobody does their own research. That's why Hillary Clinton's the most likely Democratic nominee

[Zordian]

Wow, Vexxed really tried to make Venus look bad. You would think people would find it hard to believe a women who is trying so hard to ruin her OWN daughter's life, but I guess some people just don't care and want the views, I think this says more about Vexxed then the actual video.

Edited 21 Jul 2016 by Zordian

[Qualle]

What do you think how long it will take until Margo reacts? I'm sure she's bathing in the sweet comments taking her side right now.

[InterestingLegalQuestions]

"I think this says more about Vexxed then the actual video."

It was kind of obvious from the beginning what he was. His channel is pure clickbait with no real substantial content. I bet if you googled the names on his controversy videos you will see likely see that not only was the list figured somewhere else as I bet most of the script was figured somewhere else and he added very little to it.

[V.Kyrja]

@InterestingLegalQuestions thank you for taking the time to voice your thoughts...some good ideas for Venus to consider.

I think Venus will know what to do. She is very smart and chosing to be strong no matter what. Only good things will come from that.

I agree that dragging Manaki into this mess was loooow. I think that will get vexx into a lot of trouble...

[InterestingLegalQuestions]

Yep, and that video needs to be downloaded and saved for later on (unfortunately I can't do it).

[V.Kyrja]

Yep, and that video needs to be downloaded and saved for later on (unfortunately I can't do it).

ditto.

btw, i accidentally clicked on a flag thing on your reply. i hope i didnt just report you or something. *growls at phone*

anyway, the youtube comments on Venus + Vexx's vids are most venomous...these people turned like the tide..

[TheObserver]

Ugh I'm not even going to waste my time watching that garbage and giving him the benefit of my view. It's all a load of shit.

[gone]

wellp

As he claims to be a ''Journals''. he should of have conformed the information because he could of have been slandered by using fails info. And if you did meet her mother why didn't at least take picture or made a video with her?
And again, keem tar. really??? you narrow minded person, who ever brings up big youtubers wants to be the biggest asshole on youtube, good job!
And you can't talk about much bigger larger youtubers who have effected the youtube youth so badly and you aimed to attack a 17/18 year old teen who's into anime kawaii bullshit? Sooooooo keemstar.

''For the sake of a good video'' you should of have added ''and youtube money''.
And you don't think sponsoring her daughters every thought and what she can wear and can say is an act of abuse? If that's the case since she is her sponsor and such why don't you bluntly ask her (Since you're a ''good journals'')since she did edit those old videos of why did she portrait her daughter with in many thumbnails as a sexual object for fucking weirdos?

And you can't say Venus was happy living with her mother not knowing what happens between four walls? are you a dick? like a brainless dick head??
Venus deserves every penny she gets! she was ABUSED. A B U S E D by this nut case of a mother!! who is racist and not well in the head!
What do you think she will do with that money? Go into every trend that her current many boyfriends are into? from tattooing, hair, clothes and so on.

I can keep going on about her spending.

She was using Venus as a human bank!
Her laptop, it's her laptop, because the money she has made it's her money and not her mothers.

Aww look how happy she is.

HOLD THE FUCK UP.
HOLD IT UP KEEMSTAR BOYYYY
HER MOM CONTROLLED HER TO THE T OF COURSE SHE WILL HAVE BODY IMAGE ISSUES LIKE EVERY FREAKING HUMAN. (and it's so funny your talking about this issue while playing a video of her eating a big ass cake)

Ask her mom how she's handling her mid life crises dancing in a swim suit acting like a 13 year old brat.

Oh yes

Link to video:

http://notsoangelicvenus.tumblr.com/post/23902172389/kikikannibalkam-venusangelics-mom-dances-in

YOU JUST SAID IT DICK WAD YOU DON'T HAVE THE EVIDENCE WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT THEN???
Emails aren't facts, it's so strange that it looks like a typed paragraph into some word document and not an email.
and obviously you don't know her two faced mother.
First of all, we can't see her face, and venus is not the only one who dresses in pink....and second of all WHAT KIND OF MOTHER WOULD DO THAT TO HER DAUGHTER???
AND WHAT KIND OF A PERSON WHO WON'T CHECK IF THE INTO HER MOTHER HAS POSTED IS FAILS OR NOT?? GOOD JOB KEEMSTAR WANNA BE HE MUST BEEN SO JELLY OF YOU.

LOL AT THE ENDING OH GOD YOU GOOD GOOD JOURNALIST THAT WAS AN AMAZING VID WOW SO THUMBS UP.

Edited 21 Jul 2016 by Satan

[sandy11]

Now imagine if PULL would be down I think it can save Venus if people get to learn about it and read all the stuff, what Margaret did past year, its all here.

[gone]

Now imagine if PULL would be down I think it can save Venus if people get to learn about it and read all the stuff, what Margaret did past year, its all here.

I can relate to Venus because I been into that abuse.

and I'm willing to voice out the video.

[V.Kyrja]

@Satan IKR..."journalistic" my ass. Please continue...I've been abused, too, and I support Venus 100%. The similarities are scary. Her mom is dangerous. Let's do whatever we can to help <3

@sandy011 good point...I'm so grateful it didn't close. This forum is full of valuable evidence..

P.S...is it just me or do a lot of Vexx's supporters seem...fake? Do people really get paid to sub/comment?

Edited 21 Jul 2016 by V.Kyrja

[gone]

Vexx's can suck my dick I've seen a few of his videos and he's a so hard core ''drama wanna be'' Keemstar ass kisser.