Blackpink (formerly Jennie Kim thread)

4 June

Yeah I've always hated rose's voice in bp songs, they really bring out that chipmunk quality in her tone (same way they do the nasalness of jisoo's) but in sour candy and covers she's done of other artists' songs she sounds much better.

4 June

I think people are taking it as if I'm trying to say that they are still dating, which I've already said that I'm not. I'm just posting what I've seen and it does seem like they were dating for longer than October 2018 which some people refuse to believe.
I think people are taking it as if I'm trying to say that they are still dating, which I've already said that I'm not.
The crush ring is completely different and I'm not talking about that. That was a gift from Chanel as Jennie posted it on her Ig story. I'm talking about their Cartier ring.
Idk about you but it's very clear that Chanyeol looked at Jennie and then said something to Sehun.
I didn't mention the pants or suitcase because I know those were fangifts and that's after the period I was talking about. I was talking about the 2018 watch and ring which wasn't sent to them because they are ambassadors of different brands. If you could tell me which other idols had those same items as well around that time then I would rethink my stance but as far as I could see, it was matching items for a couple who were actually confirmed to be dating so it was obvious to connect them. And how couple culture goes in Korea, that what they do.
Cartier tends to sent their items to a bunch of people. E.g. the Tank Solo Watch that Jisoo has was also sent to Hyeri, Seolhyun, and a bunch of other idols who have all promoted them on IG.
Jongin also opened up his IG account around the same time that the pinks did in June 2018 (after his father passing so there wasn't any lovestagrams previously, I never exploited nor mentioned the months leading up to his father's death. I only mentioned how they had a watch in March), his post after 13 days of not posting anything was exactly the same as his 'future' gf. I'm just connecting it and for an actual couple it seems like too obvious to be a coincidence.
I never said that they were still dating until now so idk why people bring this up.
I remember Sooyoung from SNSD talking about how she got told the night before her relationship was revealed.
If Jennie was sending glances and being so happy then why would it just be a PR stunt?
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Stop looking at these shaky fancams from odd angles and pretend to see something that's not there. She's just talking to Jisoo and could be looking at anything/anyone that's not in the frame, same for Kai. The fact that this whole thing still manages to make people fuss/obsess over it is the exact reason it could've been a pr stunt. People fuking looove shipping, that's why companies make their idols do fanservice shit with eachother. Me personally I don't know or care. They could've been, they could not. It doesn't really matter.

4 June

Stop looking at these shaky fancams from odd angles and pretend to see something that's not there. She's just talking to Jisoo and could be looking at anything/anyone that's not in the frame, same for Kai. The fact that this whole thing still manages to make people fuss/obsess over it is the exact reason it could've been a pr stunt. People fuking looove shipping, that's why companies make their idols do fanservice shit with eachother. Me personally I don't know or care. They could've been, they could not. It doesn't really matter.

I'm curious if you actually watched it.

In front of them is a whole crowd of bright lightsticks.

You can also see the rest of the pinks looking at Exo's direction. Even Sunmi noticed Suho acting weirdly and looked back at Blackpink in another angle.

Exo don't have the best track record in keeping their relationships a secret at award shows anyway. Just look at some Kaistal moments.

4 June

it is 2020 and we still have to deal with people discussing their (possible) relationships? If you do at least be somewhat respectful to the events that might have happened in an idols life during that current time.

Lovestagrams are idiotic and most evidence of relationships are utterly stupid and reminds me of this

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4 June

I'm curious if you actually watched it.
In front of them is a whole crowd of bright lightsticks.
You can also see the rest of the pinks looking at Exo's direction. Even Sunmi noticed Suho acting weirdly and looked back at Blackpink in another angle.
Exo don't have the best track record in keeping their relationships a secret at award shows anyway. Just look at some Kaistal moments.

whats your wattpad username queen

4 June

it is 2020 and we still have to deal with people discussing their (possible) relationships? If you do at least be somewhat respectful to the events that might have happened in an idols life during that current time.
Lovestagrams are idiotic and most evidence of relationships are utterly stupid and reminds me of this

The chanrose thing is funny lol

But you do realise that I'm just writing down the coincidences of a couple who was publicly revealed. I'm not trying to spread an agenda of some random idol pairing who happened to have the same ring or something like that.

Lovestagrams have been seen with Baekyeon, Park Shinhye and Choi Taejoon, ZE:A's Dongjoon, Jenkai - all who were confirmed. Similar posts when you're dating is going to turn some eyes. It's simply comparing them and I've already said that I didn't mention anything leading up to his father's death because their personal instagrams didn't even exist until then. The person who tried to push that narrative against what I've been saying didn't read my posts. I've never been inconsiderate of what happened to him, I'm just pointing out their similarities and questioning the actual length of their relationship against what was confirmed.

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Feel free to watch angles in different videos, that was what I saw and I'm sharing it because people can't believe that they may have had something that wasn't mediaplay. People around them noticed what they were doing as well. What else would Jensoo be laughing at as it didn't capture the attention of anyone else except them.

4 June

Just started noticing this but does anyone else find the way the girls interact/perform on stage kind of off?? Like for example something about Rose's body movements when she sings that it just looks weird.

4 June

Remember when YG had something "globally" prepared for BP :harharplz:

June is here still no hint or even teasers. And just the way yge media plays things is like they're stuck in the past thinking people will fall the bs lmao

4 June

i usually can’t stand blinks on twitter but them campaigning to get maeng fired is genuinely one of the funniest things i’ve seen in awhile. i think they’re completely right too,, like her makeup is underwhelming and often sloppy (especially on rosé) and for a group with a concept like theirs you’d think they’d have really bold, stunning looks.

4 June

It's simply comparing them and I've already said that I didn't mention anything leading up to his father's death because their personal instagrams didn't even exist until then. The person who tried to push that narrative against what I've been saying didn't read my posts. I've never been inconsiderate of what happened to him, I'm just pointing out their similarities and questioning the actual length of their relationship against what was confirmed.

I'm that person, and you mentioned March-June 2018, which yes, those are a few months before and a month after his father passed. You said he was most likely with Jennie around that time. You have no proof of that, and I don't like that even some of the hard core Jenkai fans tried to say she healed him after his father's passing. I know you didn't say that, but it reeks of the same thing, and I won't have that. That was a difficult year for him, and I think its disrespectful for some of the reaches people have made to prove that ship lasted or was meaningful beyond its expiration date.

You can believe whatever you want but I want to counter with this and then I will stop because you can ship a fantasy if you like, it's not my business to keep trying to change your mind. But, you mentioned him opening up an IG at the same time as BP as if that had influenced him to do it---when he had not one but two lives explaining his reasons why to Moonkyu, his friend and his fans; that he was asked if he had social media at the Gucci cruise and then he has said numerous times since then, his IG and even lives were heavily monitored by his manager and companies (SM and Gucci). So no, if you are alluding to the fact he opened up his IG in June 2018 because of Jennie or to flirt with her, then I'm going to say again. He had just lost his father and he had been asked to have social media for his Gucci stuff (which is why he is so strict about his content and aesthetic on IG, save his niece and nephew).

Now, you can watch fancams and edits and come to your own conclusion but just please be mindful of 2018 when speaking of Jongin's actions. Especially the months when his father was ill and after he passed. Some things are too serious and life-altering to be trying to wrap a ship around.

i usually can’t stand blinks on twitter but them campaigning to get maeng fired is genuinely one of the funniest things i’ve seen in awhile. i think they’re completely right too,, like her makeup is underwhelming and often sloppy (especially on rosé) and for a group with a concept like theirs you’d think they’d have really bold, stunning looks.

I remember they did a photoshoot a while back and the makeup looked so basic and like "my first makeup kit" feel. Their lips were dry, makeup was too matte, and their eyeshadow didn't even pop. They are pretty girls with unique features, they need someone with a bold eye and artistic flair.

Edited 4 June by Himchul

5 June

I'm that person, and you mentioned March-June 2018, which yes, those are a few months before and a month after his father passed. You said he was most likely with Jennie around that time. You have no proof of that, and I don't like that even some of the hard core Jenkai fans tried to say she healed him after his father's passing. I know you didn't say that, but it reeks of the same thing, and I won't have that. That was a difficult year for him, and I think its disrespectful for some of the reaches people have made to prove that ship lasted or was meaningful beyond its expiration date.
You can believe whatever you want but I want to counter with this and then I will stop because you can ship a fantasy if you like, it's not my business to keep trying to change your mind. But, you mentioned him opening up an IG at the same time as BP as if that had influenced him to do it---when he had not one but two lives explaining his reasons why to Moonkyu, his friend and his fans; that he was asked if he had social media at the Gucci cruise and then he has said numerous times since then, his IG and even lives were heavily monitored by his manager and companies (SM and Gucci). So no, if you are alluding to the fact he opened up his IG in June 2018 because of Jennie or to flirt with her, then I'm going to say again. He had just lost his father and he had been asked to have social media for his Gucci stuff (which is why he is so strict about his content and aesthetic on IG, save his niece and nephew).
Now, you can watch fancams and edits and come to your own conclusion but just please be mindful of 2018 when speaking of Jongin's actions. Especially the months when his father was ill and after he passed. Some things are too serious and life-altering to be trying to wrap a ship around.

You're right that I have no proof because this is all my views and speculation. You're also right that I didn't push that she healed him or anything like that.

I'm just looking at things and linking them together, his manager also followed Jennie before the exposure so I don't believe the monitoring was that heavy. It makes sense in my mind as they did have matching posts which people picked up on before January 1st but I do see where you're coming from as some people may have thought it was insensitive. I never intended to come across like that however couple culture in Korea is heavily based on things matching and that's what I based a large chunk of my argument on. I wasn't aware he opened up his IG for those reasons you mentioned because I'm not a Kai stan. A family member passing is totally life-changing as everyone would agree but that wouldn't stop the possibility of acting in any specific way. We're looking from an outside perspective and writing what we think based on what is infront of us.

In the end, we don't actually know these people and how they act so all I said could have been complete bs or may have had truth to it.

Thank you for putting your point forward calmly

Edited 5 June by Bumbumbum
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5 June

The chanrose thing is funny lol
But you do realise that I'm just writing down the coincidences of a couple who was publicly revealed. I'm not trying to spread an agenda of some random idol pairing who happened to have the same ring or something like that.
Lovestagrams have been seen with Baekyeon, Park Shinhye and Choi Taejoon, ZE:A's Dongjoon, Jenkai - all who were confirmed. Similar posts when you're dating is going to turn some eyes. It's simply comparing them and I've already said that I didn't mention anything leading up to his father's death because their personal instagrams didn't even exist until then. The person who tried to push that narrative against what I've been saying didn't read my posts. I've never been inconsiderate of what happened to him, I'm just pointing out their similarities and questioning the actual length of their relationship against what was confirmed.
Feel free to watch angles in different videos, that was what I saw and I'm sharing it because people can't believe that they may have had something that wasn't mediaplay. People around them noticed what they were doing as well. What else would Jensoo be laughing at as it didn't capture the attention of anyone else except them.

smh. you seem to wholeheartedly be under the impression that if a celebrity couple receives public confirmation of their relationship then that is somehow proof that the people involved are in a true-blue love affair and that coincidences take on meaning but lemme go ahead and burst that little delusional bubble. you do realise that the entire purpose of promance/fauxmance media play is to publicly reveal a pairing between two well-known individuals with the goal of boosting their media presence and/or to hide truths regarding homosexuality and/or other proclivities that would be ruinous to a celebrity’s established image. pr don’t work if the public is not discussing the couple and for that to happen then first the couple has to be unveiled to the public.

tale as old as time...or at least as old as the hollywood studio system and the k-entertainment world follows the same exact beats of generating publicity that hollywood does. why? because the tactics work. more often than not, the celebrity pairing is between an already popular ship among fandoms or the general public and are publicly revealed just when the two celebs have new projects to peddle. and since we are specifically discussing jenkai - what did jennie and kai have to promote at the time...welp, that would be her solo and upcoming blackpink world tour and he had a new exo album release and super m project in the works. plus i ain’t even gonna touch on the details but the fact is that each of them also had their own individual swirling rumors and controversies to untangle from. all of which were forgotten with the so-called outing of their relationship - to the surprise to no one who knows how the entertainment world publicity machine works. there is no easier way to distract and divert public attention and to arouse the curiosity of the celebrity-obsessed public than with the idea of romance between two rich and beautiful people. everyone loves a celebrity love story. fandoms feel as if their dreams are made reality. it is a win-win situation. the media outlets get their scoop which generates more sales and clicks for them and the agencies and celebrities receive publicity. and i know this may come to you as a shock but majority of the time, the celebs who are reported as having romantic dinners together or going on moonlit walks hand-in-hand barely know each other. also i hate to ruin the illusion for you but they absolutely know the paparazzi is there because their reps call the paps in advance to come out to where the fake celeb couple are so that they can snap aesthetically staged photos and video of them on not-so-secret dates.

you misrepresented the k-celeb couples that you mentioned here. but before i get to that i just wanna point out that lovestagrams do not exist. lovestagrams are a lie invented by fandoms who desperately search for clues and codes to pin down a timeline and confirm for them that a celebrity couple was secretly communicating their love to the fans all along and broadcasting in front of the world but only people who are clever enough can figure it out. fans created a whole instagram fiction between baekhun and taeyeon because apparently some people think that she would have felt the need to sub-post about him and that there was proof of their relationship hidden in how she lined up her personalised coffee mugs. there was also weird significance. placed on the fact that both baekhyun and taeyeon liked oreo cookies. seriously. sure is weird that two people would like a popular cookie. kai has never posted about jennie. the only kai that jennie has mentioned is her dog. fans also dreamed up the scenario that jennie was the person who photographed him in a pic he uploaded back in november 2018 with absolutely no proof of this being true. most times celebrities - especially idols - either have social media managers or very limited control of their social media. this is because they are not representing their individual self but the image of who the brand wants them to be for the public. their sns posts are there to promote the brand aesthetic and to communicate with fans and typically have to be approved by managers being posted online. of course there will be similarities between accounts across social media because people in the same industry have the similar aesthetics and generally share similar interests or follow what is trending.

park shin hye and choi tae joon had been rumoured to be dating for over a year and had been photographed by the public on various dates, and other outings. including several overseas trips where he held her purse as he was walked behind her. they were pretty much a couple that everyone was aware of and what prompted them to disclose their relationship is when dispatch falsely published that she was dating lee jong suk and the public was clamouring for that ship to the point of where it was causing her real life discomfort especially because the two had to promote their project together. soo-young and jung kyung-ho had also been rumoured to be dating for years and had been photographed by the public on various dates. they specifically got tired of denying the relationship because it was serious and had been on-going for years. neither one of the couples made any efforts to be discreet and had been outed via the public for years prior to any dispatch reporting. there was and is nothing secretive going on in any one of these people’s social media postings.

the cartier band worn by jennie has also been worn by lisa and jisoo and jungkook of bts. the ring kai wore was gucci. and i fail to see the significance of someone wearing a ring on his or her ring finger. that’s normally where people wear rings. kai has worn several cartier watch designs but for some odd reason jenkai fans are stuck on the one time that he wore a cartier watch that was similar to hers. the so-called couple‘s shirt is a popular vetements design and other idols have been photographed in the same shirt. vetements sends a lot of merch to stylists. i have seen the same videos the you keep pointing out as proof and sorry but you are connecting dots which are not there.

i wrote a whole ass dissertation. i'm tired. the last point i will make is you can believe what you want to believe but the image you see from celebrities is the image that you are meant to see. the role of the celebrity is to present an idealized perfected view of reality and that includes perfectly crafted phony romances. do not believe everything you see or hear because the media tells you it is true. it’s all just smoke and mirrors.

Edited 5 June by cleopatra jones

5 June

I haven't been keeping up much with BP or their fandom as much as I used to, so pardon if this question has already been answered on here by someone:

Since when was maeng first employed as their makeup artist?

After all the backlash she's been getting, you'd start wondering why she's still working for YGE. Have the girls simply grown attached to her and that's playing a role, however teeny it may be, on her seemingly stable employment? Is it because she works at a famous hair & makeup salon?

It's just beyond my comprehension how they could hire a mua who lacks the dexterity in fulfilling a job she's supposed to excel at, being her field of expertise (which, we can safely say by now, it's not).

5 June

smh. you seem to wholeheartedly be under the impression that if a celebrity couple receives public confirmation of their relationship then that is somehow proof that the people involved are in a true-blue love affair and that coincidences take on meaning but lemme go ahead and burst that little delusional bubble. you do realise that the entire purpose of promance/fauxmance media play is to publicly reveal a pairing between two well-known individuals with the goal of boosting their media presence and/or to hide truths regarding homosexuality and/or other proclivities that would be ruinous to a celebrity’s established image. pr don’t work if the public is not discussing the couple and for that to happen then first the couple has to be unveiled to the public.

tale as old as time...or at least as old as the hollywood studio system and the k-entertainment world follows the same exact beats of generating publicity that hollywood does. why? because the tactics work. more often than not, the celebrity pairing is between an already popular ship among fandoms or the general public and are publicly revealed just when the two celebs have new projects to peddle. and since we are specifically discussing jenkai - what did jennie and kai have to promote at the time...welp, that would be her solo and upcoming blackpink world tour and he had a new exo album release and super m project in the works. plus i ain’t even gonna touch on the details but the fact is that each of them also had their own individual swirling rumors and controversies to untangle from. all of which were forgotten with the so-called outing of their relationship - to the surprise to no one who knows how the entertainment world publicity machine works. there is no easier way to distract and divert public attention and to arouse the curiosity of the celebrity-obsessed public than with the idea of romance between two rich and beautiful people. everyone loves a celebrity love story. fandoms feel as if their dreams are made reality. it is a win-win situation. the media outlets get their scoop which generates more sales and clicks for them and the agencies and celebrities receive publicity. and i know this may come to you as a shock but majority of the time, the celebs who are reported as having romantic dinners together or going on moonlit walks hand-in-hand barely know each other. also i hate to ruin the illusion for you but they absolutely know the paparazzi is there because their reps call the paps in advance to come out to where the fake celeb couple are so that they can snap aesthetically staged photos and video of them on not-so-secret dates.

Just wondering - i can believe it - but how do you know for certain that's how entertainment companies stage relationships?

5 June

I'm curious if you actually watched it.
In front of them is a whole crowd of bright lightsticks.
You can also see the rest of the pinks looking at Exo's direction. Even Sunmi noticed Suho acting weirdly and looked back at Blackpink in another angle.
Exo don't have the best track record in keeping their relationships a secret at award shows anyway. Just look at some Kaistal moments.

i watched that vid you linked. I clicked timestamps shippers posted of their "interactions" and took screenshots.

this is supposedly instance no 1 where Jennie "looked at Kai". Who are you kidding? Probably all she can see is Jisoo's hair.

instance no 2 where Jennie "looked at Kai". Ok this is just dumb. Does Jennie's eyes bend light or does she have xray vision?

The part where Kai "looks at Jennie". His gaze was pointing up. Jennie is nowhere within his field of view.

I'm starting to think that delusionally shipping idols has an adverse effect on the optic and cognitive centers of one's brain.

Edited 5 June by GreenTomato

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