Kanadajin3 posts some real debatable topics/rants on her blog . ( Mostly they are just CRINGING )
This is something a bit old so not so recent . (2012 I think ?) I thought I'd share because well ... you can read for yourself .
Long story short, she agreed to go on a short outing with a male. ( This is also when she was married ). She said herself she was not interested in the guy but agreed after he persistently asked her for a couple of months. Basically he is real nasty and like way beyond thirstaaay. She calls him " The Shibuya Gaijin Sex Seeker " .This isn't the real issue, but the fact she went along with the mindset of " What's he gonna do to me lol , least I get a free meal outta him " Like UM WHAT ARE YOU DOING IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK THAT WAY. Her comments/replies on this post just fry my brain up ohmahgoooosh =.=
I don't know if I should just post this in the General thread , But Admin K feel free to remove it if I am doing something wrong ! ^^;
Oh and here's a copy and paste from the blog post for those who are like ain't go no time to click on some link lmfao .
The shibuya gaijin sex seeker
This happened a few weeks ago but I decided to tell the story. I decided to draw a picture of this guy so that you can almost picture what is going on. Enjoy.
So here we have someone who I will call 'the Shibuya Gaijin sex seeker'. Me and my friend, D-chan were hanging outside of shibuya station getting ready to go home. Along came this English speaking Japanese freak guy. He said he was bored because his friends had to go home (or they probably escaped from his ass)
My friend D-chan knew something was up, she kept whispering to me "he looks dirty lets get out of here". Of course I didn't want to be rude and just leave so suddenly (I am not the type of person to just do those things).
We really didn't want to hang out with him so instead I said we would hang out another day (lie) and maybe we would come back later (lie). We said this to make our escape seem less blunt and obvious, if he was a crazy person or something maybe we thought he would get angry if we directly said we didn't want to hang out with him. This person also wasn't very good at understanding the atmosphere (kuuki yomenai hito), as you say in Japanese.
We left and went somewhere else and sat down playing on our phones for a while before we went home. We didn't see him again.
However, suddenly a few days later I got a email from someone on my phone. I thought it was very strange because I don't know how he got my email. Thinking about it he must have seen it at some point where I opened my phone. My email is really short and easy to remember, so he must have seen it when we were talking to him, or he must have followed us and seen it when we were sitting down!!
He didn't seem like a creep at the time, but rather just someone who wanted to keep up his English skills (which I am not interested in hanging out with). I kept ignoring him and telling him I was busy, hoping he would go away. I didn't want to tell him directly that I wasn't interested because something my personality can't do. Instead I hoped he would understand by my words that I wasn't interested (which he never understood).
About a month later, he was still insisting on meeting me, so one evening I finally said fine. Maybe I thought I shouldn't judge him so much, maybe he is a nice person. Its not like I had anything better to do that evening and after all if he ends up being a creep, at least I get a free meal.
I told him IF he wanted to hang out with me, he only has 3 hours till my ex husband comes home. He had to come ALL the way to my end of town (2 hour train away from him). I thought if I gave him these cercumstances, he wouldn't want to bother.
But he agreed. And this is how the evening went,
"Are you thirsty, Shall we get something to drink??"
Yes, I nodded. I wondered where he would take me for a drink. Maybe Starbucks since it is the closest drink store.
.....oh whats that...We enter McDonald's... Oh ok. I guess I can get a Cola...
"Oh....McDonald's water...oh you shouldn't have"...(should have just told me to drink out of a tap in the bathroom while you wait for me outside!)
Next he lead me to a rock where we could sit and talk. We started talking about how I got to Japan and other chit chat.
We were just talking about traveling, when suddenly he asked to see my hand. This was his stupid corny way of saying he wanted to hold my hand.
"Sorry. I am not interested in displaying public affection. You fucking creep!"
I was shocked that he was so quick to advance on me, in public too!. I mean trying to hold someones hand you just met and someone who was married. Our previous conversations had no reason for him to believe that I was interested in anything with him.
He began to ask me questions about himself 'do I think he is cool/handsome etc'. I kept giving him the cold shoulder, telling him It didn't matter and that I was only interested in making friends. I kept making it very obvious that I wasn't interested in speaking about these kinds of things, then changing the subject to something else.
The next part of the situation, I can't even believe this happened.
Is this guy crazy or something? Who ever mentioned sex? We went from him, trying to hold me hand, to me rejecting that and telling him I wasn't interested at all. Then he tried to sell me the opportunity to sleep with him. I told him I was married and not interested at all, expressing full on confusion as to why the even would mention such things. Thelast thing he said was something like this.
"I know you are probably just used to Japanese guys flopping around on top of you for 1 min till they are done, But I always make sure I take time to satisfy the girl before I satisfy myself...."
*Mira stairs* (omg is this idiot actually saying this?)
He then proceeds to tell me that all Japanese girls meet him and want to sleep him (yeah, I highly doubt that). If there are actual girls that sleep with this crazy freak, I am sure they are hookers.
I had no idea what to say to him. I had no idea if I should leave now. It was too entertaining at this point. The whole time I was thinking I can't wait to tell my friends about this weirdo!. I couldn't even believe someone could be so aggressive and upfront about things even after being rejected so many times. I couldn't stop laughing in my head.
Since he was getting nowhere he decided to try to impress me by taking me to karaoke so he could rape me. I at first rejected it telling him straight up,
"If we go inside, I am still not going to kiss you".
He insisted that he wasn't interested in kissing me if I just wanted to be friends and he just wanted to hear me sing. He said he wont bother to hit on me anymore and he begged me for just one song. I thought what the hell, might as well.
When we got inside I showed no interest in him but only interest in the songs and singing. It only took him another 5 mins of the night to realise he was not getting some action (Slow or what?). After he realised I wasn't going to give him any loving, he stopped talking, refused to sing and eventually heCANCELED the karaoke (so now we only have 30 mins to sing instead of hour he originally requested). What a baby. I told him before and during that I wasn't interested, yet he kept trying.
As soon as he did that I told him I have to go home. He insisted on following me back to my station which I rejected. I made it very obvious that I wasn't interested in him. I was acting angry and cold at him. When it was time for him to part and get on his train he even attempted to kiss me goodbye but I ducked away, then he tryed to hug me (eww). As soon as he left I pulled out my phone and called up D-chan telling her all about what just happened.
He tried to contact me a few times after but I ignored so he gave up (finally).
AND HERE ARE THE REPLIES AND MORE INFAMOUS MIRA SPELLING ERRORS YOU CAN LOL AT. HONESTLY I THINK THAT HER ARGUMENT ISN'T TOTALLY 100% RIGHT . But what do you guys think ?
EriApril 2, 2013 at 4:30 AMHah! That made me remember how I, just like you, was agreeing to meet people for free meals lol. It's actually a great way to get to know the person without wasting too much time. I don't understand why some accuse you for that in their comments. Once you are a gaijin girl+ new/alone in Japan + with no much money- that's the reality. We're not doing prostitution and it's not like we're forcing the "poor guys" to pay. It's completely normal (at least in Japan) when a guy pays for the girl's meal- be it even just a regular friend
ReplyReplies Danil IpOctober 4, 2013 at 12:21 AM"It's completely normal (at least in Japan) when a guy pays for the girl's meal" ..fucking (international) femenist mentality which considers "normal" that a woman's time is worth more than a man's, and if a man wants sex from a woman, he has to PAY for it, be it in form of a free meal or whatever.
"We're not doing prostitution and it's not like we're forcing the "poor guys" to pay"..blah blah blah
No no, you're not forcing him, better than that, you're EXPECTING the guy to be a fucking idiot as to willingly pay for you (oh yeah, feminists have invented a cute word for this called "gentleman", yeah, he's expected to be a fucking pussified gentle morron). When you expect a guy to pay for you as a default, based on his gender (simply because he's a guy), it is nothing else than just another (socially acccepted) form of prostitution! You girls are cheap for selling out yourselves for free stuff! Have some dignity! Well, it's a matter of choice...
Now, I would understand her case (being a young girl, foreigner in a different country, little money, alone or very few friends, etc.) but the fact that she lived with her (ex)husband and yet she went on a date with another guy for a free fucking meal, doesn't leave any room for excuses. Are you dieing of hunger to go on a date with a fucking creep so u can fill your stomach??
"How would I know if I am interested in being friends with him". C'mon, u can get to know someone via skype chat as well, even from comments (maybe not as well as a face to face to face chat) but that would be enough to form a general idea of a person and to decide whether u wanna meet with such a person or not.
Mira kanadajinOctober 4, 2013 at 12:27 AMlol. I think you got it all wrong.
You see, After the guy pays, the girl still doesn't plan on having sex with him, there was never even though of ANY sex.
The girl just wants free stuff.
Its not called feminisim, feminism is where both are =
I came from a society where girls arn't expected to pay, and guys are. And I currently live in a society where girls arn't expected to pay, and guys are.
Both societys, it is not a, get free meal, get sex, society.
Nor have I met any decent guy who thinks such a thing.
I am going to be extreamly blunt, honest and not try to sugar coat it. There are plenty of girls, who are interested in free shit. My friends all around me act the same way. Ofcourse, we don't go seeking out free stuff (aproaching guys, only so they can get us stuff) but its the opposite, those guys approach us, offer us something, we accept. And leave.
Same goes for at the bar, how many guys take a free drink then ditch the guy? Lots.
Rude and bitchy girls will go the extream and play into things and act interested in order to get more. Girls like me, make it clear we arn't interested, yet if they persist in giving us something, we don't turn down the offer.
Danil IpOctober 4, 2013 at 1:11 AM"lol. I think you got it all wrong"
Maybe to an extent.
"You see, After the guy pays, the girl still doesn't plan on having sex with him, there was never even though of ANY sex."
Doesn't suprise me, the art of "dating" in which all the benefits go to a woman has been perfected))
"The girl just wants free stuff"
At least this one u admit.
"Its not called feminisim, feminism is where both are ="
I guess we have a different perception on this subject matter.
To me "feminism" is when all the benefits go to a woman, while the guy is left let's say...at a disadvantage
If femenism was all about equality, then it'd be called something like "equalism" or somehting of that sort.
"I came from a society where girls arn't expected to pay, and guys are. And I currently live in a society where girls arn't expected to pay, and guys are."
Well, I don't blame u for that. (After all u're posing urself as a victim of social programming)
Even though I do question as to who creates those social norms that benefits one group of people and puts at a disadvantage another group.
"There are plenty of girls, who are interested in free shit. My friends all around me act the same way."
We tend to make friends with those who are like ourselves.
"Ofcourse, we don't go seeking out free stuff (aproaching guys, only so they can get us stuff) but its the opposite, those guys approach us, offer us something, we accept. And leave."
Indeed, why bother running after mice when mice come themselves))
"Rude and bitchy girls will go the extream and play into things and act interested in order to get more."
After all, it's all about *gettig something*, and it was from the very beginning.
"Girls like me, make it clear we arn't interested, yet if they persist in giving us something, we don't turn down the offer."
Indeed, why would u?
P.S. (as u rightly said) "The girl just wants free stuff."
Mira kanadajinOctober 4, 2013 at 1:52 AM"""To me "feminism" is when all the benefits go to a woman, while the guy is left let's say...at a disadvantage"""
You have the wrong meaning of feminism. Feminism is those people who say that women should be able to work the same as men and be treated the same as men = gender rights.
Which is way off topic.
Anyways. Point is, if you are a guy, you have to be the most stupidest person on earth to think just because you buy a girl food = sex. Never.
No way has she said that, no way does that mean that.
It would be stupid as a girl beliving "oh he gave me his phone number = he loves me". No way.
If a girl wants to have sex with a guy, shes going to have sex with him regardles of if he buys her anything.
Danil IpOctober 4, 2013 at 2:17 AMwhatever, I'm done discussing this topic.
"if you are a guy, you have to be the most stupidest person on earth"
yes, I'm a guy
...and u must be the nicest person on earth if u cannot elobrate without name calling))
as well as u must be the smartest person on earth to have taken ur time to reply to a stupid guy's comments.
Have a good day!
Mira kanadajinOctober 4, 2013 at 2:33 AM?? lol
You stoped reading too soon
That comment is not about you, its about all guys.
if you are a guy, you have to be the most stupidest person on earth to think just because you buy a girl food = sex. Never.
You meaning guys/them/said person if you belive.