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Oh my god, I'm so pissed off now. This is the literal equivalent of shopping at a pet store. I'm sorry. But as someone who is involved with show cats and ethical breeders I am disgusted. This is shady as fuck and clearly a BYB. The very phrase 'doll-face Persian' is a marketing ploy. It doesn't exist and I can assure you that this 'breeder' is not adhering to any show standard.

Why does that matter? Because if you aren't adhering to show standards, you do not care about the health and betterment of the breed. You don't understand genetics and you will not care about health. Other signs include there is no mention of shots, FeLV testing, and you can be certain that the mother did not receive optimum prenatal care. And I doubt she was screened before the breeding. Real breeders care about their kittens, they interview adopters, they do followups. And they will never give up an unaltered kitten because it is irresponsible considering the amount of over population. Often they won't even breed their cats until they have a waitlist.

I don't hate on people that want to buy a pet quality kitten from a breeder. I mean I have one in addition to my rescues. When you support them you aren't feeding into overcrowding in shelters because a breeder will always take their kittens back and contract you not to rehome. But people like this 'doll face' Persian people aren't doing it for the cats, they don't care if their kittens get declawed or if they end up in shelters. They don't care about breed health. They piss me the fuck off.

Breeders don't charge you large sums of money because they are greedy, it just costs that much to produce the healthiest kittens. And if you are not producing the healthiest kittens and fixing them before you hand them off, fuck you. Go to the shelter and go watch some kittens get euthanized.

Rant over.

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I am so over her. You can’t preach “adopt don’t shop” and do this crap. I hope she gets called out more. I don’t care about people shopping, I honestly don’t as long as the breeder is giving extremely good care throughout pregnancy, I know a lot are going to disagree but you’re stuck with this animal for its hopefully long life, get what you want as long as you have the money and love to care for it, but she’s such a hypocrite. 

Shes a mess who doesn’t deserve the fans she has. She’s giving out bare minimum information on how to care for these animals when she neglects her own. I’m so angry at her. 

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What’s worse is like, this isn’t even a breeder. This is a CRAIGSLIST AD for kittens at a luxury price. 

I’m literally astounded. 

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someone should tweet that at her. 

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I am so over her. You can’t preach “adopt don’t shop” and do this crap. I hope she gets called out more. I don’t care about people shopping, I honestly don’t as long as the breeder is giving extremely good care throughout pregnancy, I know a lot are going to disagree but you’re stuck with this animal for its hopefully long life, get what you want as long as you have the money and love to care for it, but she’s such a hypocrite. 

Shes a mess who doesn’t deserve the fans she has. She’s giving out bare minimum information on how to care for these animals when she neglects her own. I’m so angry at her. 

 

I agree with you. I had a cat die suddenly last month from a blood clot. She was only 6 years old and her heart didn't show any signs of damage until I woke up to her screaming. It can happen to any cat, but shelling out the money for a cat from a healthy line decreases those risks a lot. A lot of my rescue cats have underlying illnesses. They are great cats, but in the end treating asthma, heart disease, chronic eye infections, etc. from them growing up in poor conditions ends up costing the same as my show cat who (*knocks on wood*) has never cost me to visit a specialist.

Not a 100% thing either way. But the self righteous 'Adopt Don't Shop' people drive me crazy, it's even worse from Taylor who is a blatant hypocrite.

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I’m very pro “Adopt don’t shop” for various reasons (not that I think all breeders are bad, not at all) but the fact she advocates for adopting dogs but was considering buying CRAIGSLIST BREEDER KITTENS is mind boggling. I’m actually mad.

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Don’t think that’s really what happened but just to point out the option: I’ve seen before that people will steal pictures from other sites for their Craigslist ads. 

What I think is more likely is that in her head she’s saving these kitties from those horrible, horrible people or something. Any mental gymnastics necessary to be pro adoption and shop on Craigslist for even more pets at the same time I suppose. 

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Same, and when you have the kind of influence she does... so gross. Thing is, any quality breeder wouldn't give a kitten.

The thing that gets me is she's also in a place like Texas. In my area where winters get harsh kittens aren't viable year round, so while colonies need to be controlled, they aren't crazy either. There's really only the one kitten season and then its just older strays throughout the year. That and there are no kill shelters in my area because there is always enough space.

Anyways, would you just look at that: https://sahumane.org/adopt-a-cat

There are kittens available for adoption right now. Boy oh boy. Who would have guessed?

My guess is she either really wants a 'designer' kitten now, or she will not be allowed to adopt for the same reasons any reputable breeder wouldn't allow it.  She's in a apartment with a pet limit and possibly lying about it. She's a hoarder. A kitten just died in her care. Her kitten probably isn't vetted and could pose a risk to other cats. Etc. 

Side Note: The fact the SAHumane is a no kill shelter makes me madder about her not giving up the kittens.

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If you guys haven’t really searched up on her boyfriend, I really recommend you do. It’s seriously got me upset that she would support someone like that, and she doesn’t even deny it! Because “people can change”... 

Every single girlfriend he’s had in the past has spoken up about him mentally and physically abusing them, this includes rape and even holding someone down and trying to put a herion needle in her arm while she begged him to stop. He has even recently threatened to burn one’s house down, (about a month ago). 

I used to really like Taylor and her videos, by recently gotten annoyed by her hoarding, and this just set me off, I’ve lost all respect for her.

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Also, I would like to add that the kitten looks so sickly in the pictures she shares.

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What's worse, is that like..... she gets UNENDING support by fans. Like, I do enjoy some of her content, but people really see her as this all-knowing loving animal mom when she isn't. 

I also notice the people who stand up for her hoarding is either ppl with no pets/one or two cats or dogs/are hoarders themselves.

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Looks like Taylor “adopt don’t shop” Nicole Dean was searching Craig’s List for luxury kittens to selflessly take in! What a hero! 

I like how when she said “These kittens need a home” she failed to mention they’re from a breeder selling them for $600 a piece.

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Oh my god that's disgusting. The fact that she just said "these kittens need a home" to make herself sound heroic again. 

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Some twitter receipts on Taylor’s abusive boyfriend that she insists is a changed man...

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Also, I would like to add that the kitten looks so sickly in the pictures she shares.

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That kitten is underweight. Not drastically - but enough that anyone with experience or education would recognize and rectify it. You can tell from the first few photos she posted of him to the photos she posting now that he's lost weight, and hasn't been groomed properly. 

She also recently posted this, before deleting it: Screen_Shot_2017-12-12_at_6.37.58_AM.thu

(Oh! The toughest time in your life is the PERFECT time to take on two newborn kittens!!!) 

She has an inability to take criticism or suggestion; something VERY important when keeping new animals. I really hope with her rising popularity comes much more criticism - even if she isn't receptive, hopefully some of her fans will stop supporting the way she approaches animal care. 

In addition, this tweet is comically hypocritical. She refuses to listen to anything from anyone, including people far more credible than herself. Yet she sits and expects others to accept what she says as fact. I can only speak from my experiences, and as someone with years of formal education on animal care, I have found I can only keep four pets well. There is absolutely no way, that with as many pets as she has, and with the severity of the illnesses she has, that those animals are truly cared for well. 

On the topic of her boyfriend; he fucking sucks. He's abusive, manipulative, and he's leaching off Taylor, but at the end of the day, it's her choice. Her pets, crammed into the smallest possible cages, being handled either too much (whenever she wants) or too little (when the novelty of a new pet wears off) have no choice whatsoever. What's happening in her personal life is upsetting, but I think what's happening to her pets is more so. 

Taylor and those like her (especially Tyler Rugge) are promoting and advocating for animal hoarding. She NEEDS to be called out for it, not that she'll be receptive - she'll dismiss anyone who does as a 'hater' and surround herself with 15 year olds who praise her clearly toxic behavior. 

I don't know. Sorry this is so long.

I frankly just can't stand what she's advocating for, and I really don't think her fans will ever understand that theres a better way to keep pets. 

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It's naive and stupid to date a man who has MULTIPLE allegations he's abused, manipulated, threatened, and possibly sexually assaulted the women he's been with.

It's naive and stupid to move your 20 fucking animals into a small apartment (and without the complex possibly being aware).

It's naive and stupid to take in 2 newborn kittens with very little cat experience (working at Petco doesn't count, they never handle babies like that) and then try to buy CRAIGSLIST BREEDER KITTENS and pass them off as "just kittens that need a home".

Do I know everything going on in your life? No, of course not. But what you've chosen to show is telling.

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