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People who honestly don’t see an issue with Taylor’s care are fucking blind. There is no excuse for a person who has only owned snakes for a single year to suddenly aquimulate 20 of varying age and difficulty. 

Anyone who says she doesn’t at LEAST impulse buy pets irresponsibly is just outright ignoring the issue. Every time she leaves her apartment she’s brought in another animal she’s “””saved”””. 

She doesn’t need 60 fucking pets packed into a small apartment. She is not an educator. She didn’t work at a zoo or a sanctuary for long periods of time. She worked at fucking Petco, a store where they take shit care of their animals in the first place. 

She uses her animals as a personality because without them she doesn’t have one besides obsessing over her rapist boyfriend. 

I’m sick of this girl sobbing and whining and her pre-teen fans coming to her defense because someone requests bare minimum decency from her. 

People who honestly don’t see an issue with Taylor’s care are fucking blind. There is no excuse for a person who has only owned snakes for a single year to suddenly aquimulate 20 of varying age and difficulty. 

Anyone who says she doesn’t at LEAST impulse buy pets irresponsibly is just outright ignoring the issue. Every time she leaves her apartment she’s brought in another animal she’s “””saved”””. 

She doesn’t need 60 fucking pets packed into a small apartment. She is not an educator. She didn’t work at a zoo or a sanctuary for long periods of time. She worked at fucking Petco, a store where they take shit care of their animals in the first place. 

She uses her animals as a personality because without them she doesn’t have one besides obsessing over her rapist boyfriend. 

I’m sick of this girl sobbing and whining and her pre-teen fans coming to her defense because someone requests bare minimum decency from her. 

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I feel conflicted about her. I don't think she is a malicious person. However, I do think she has a hoarding problem and that having so many pets prevents her from being able to care for them in the best way possible. Having so many tanks plugged into a regular home electric system is just asking for trouble. When you have a pet die, it's important to reflect on things and change your behavior in the future. I lost a couple fish due to old tank syndrome, so I made sure to change things with my remaining fish so that wouldn't happen again. I didn't get more fish because I knew having more upkeep wouldn't be a good idea. 

If she has a health problem, she probably has a bit more of a time investment in self-care than the average person. I'm sure that it may get lonely being at home and taking care of animals may help her cope. However, it's important for you to understand as a carer what kind of upkeep you are capable of doing and not getting more pets than you are capable of spending enough time checking on and caring for. 

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I honestly feel kind of bad about defending Taylor weeks ago about her EDS diagnosis after seeing the shitty care she gives her animals, she doesn't deserve defending anymore

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I honestly feel kind of bad about defending Taylor weeks ago about her EDS diagnosis after seeing the shitty care she gives her animals, she doesn't deserve defending anymore

 

I don’t think she has EDS and if she does, it’s incredibly mild

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I don’t think she has EDS and if she does, it’s incredibly mild

 

She's stated she does in a video. We both have type 3. It's very possible she has it mildly. I have a moderate-severe case. I don't have any deathly serious symptoms but I'm becoming crippled in my mid 20s and steadily getting worse.

 

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So, it's here.

Thank the Lord for 2x speed.

40 minutes with too much repetition and still she didn't really take full responsibility for certain things. She still made excuses and tried to explain them away.

I will give her credit for admitting that she amassed too many animals, too quickly earlier this year.

I personally was not one to believe that she was trying to replace animals and pretend it was the original animal, so that was never an issue for me.

I also was not one to think she was going to breed the rats to provide a food source.

 

Regarding the kittens. (I ramble too much, so spoiler.)

 

I thought she was going in the right direction, but she refused to just straight up say, "I should not have taken in those kittens and kept them. I should have sought out a professional or an experienced carer. I fucked up."

She says it was a mistake but then harps on about how Nemo lived and she did right by him. Essentially she dismissed it.

She just said she believes she did her best and Nemo surviving is proof she did everything she could and did everything right according to the vet who couldn't tell her what was wrong or even give a SINGLE suggestion as to the cause of the kitten's declining health. The vet also said the kittens were 2 weeks old but Taylor said herself under an IG post that she thought the vet was wrong and that Nemo was closer to 3-4 weeks. Quite an incompetent vet but Taylor herself cites the kittens as being 2 weeks old when it suits her...?

I call bullshit on that. Doing your best would be to find someone with experience, learn from them, or let them foster the kittens for you to then adopt.

Taking in kittens when you have zero experience caring for neo-natal is flat-out irresponsible. I am not claiming she took them in to kill them. I don't doubt she loved the kittens, however she was not aware of how delicate they truly were. I won't even claim that had she given them to an experienced foster parent, that the gray kitten would have lived, but she would have stood a better chance at the very least.

Loving animals is setting aside your pride to do what is best, which she is capable of doing as she speaks about rehoming the seahorses.

Regarding Ghost, people were questioning her because she supposedly got him from a PetCo adoption thing? But it is illegal to adopt out kittens under 8 weeks and Taylor would not be a suitable foster parent because of her lack of experience. Yes, the time she got Ghost, he was very much at the low risk stage of 5 weeks, but the story still seems weird, but obviously we can't confirm or deny what happened there.

I will say that it bothers me that she says she loves cats, yet she went to multiple shelters and didn't connect with any cats. I see any short-haired cat, anywhere, I immediately want to pet and play with it.

Instead she bonds with weak kittens who need someone to care for them. Instead she bonds with Ghost, possibly a Ragdoll which are pricey as heck. It's almost like it fits the narrative for every other pet she gets. Either it's sick, dying, in need of a new home direct from the original owner, an exotic purchase from a pet shop, from a breeder, or it is designer.

Not saying she definitely lied, or that my way of thinking is superior to hers. This is more so me rambling about how I cannot comprehend that. Loving animals and especially cats, but not seeing a single one in a shelter that you liked. This is not me being a conspiracy theorist. This is me asking someone to dumb this down for me so I understand.

 

She didn't address the accusations about overstuffing tanks. Mushu being without a cooler. Keeping Cheese with lots of fish that he could kill with the toxins Cowfish release when stressed -specifically Zasu the Lionfish could have stressed Cheese out. Keeping Cheese in a tank too small for him for a pro-longed period of time. 

I don't keep fish or amphibians, so I cannot really comment on this much, did she not address the aforementioned accusations because they are flat out false and not worth bringing up? Or did she not address them because she could not explain them away?

I have no clue.

With Cheese dying, I will say it was weird that she said, "I have no idea why he died."

You put a chemical in the tank to kill the algae or whatever it was. If he was fine before that, then surely we can say that was likely the cause, not saying it could not have been something else. Could have been a coincidence.

Regarding her slandering a reptile company, people were mad she did not publicly apologise.

You publicly slandered a company to your fanbase which resulted in people harassing this company. They may have lost customers because of this. Sending them a private apology is not good enough because how are people to know that they weren't repsonsible for Twisty's tail.

She said she didn't remember who she got Twisty from. Now, maybe this is not a thing in the reptile community, but surely you have documents from the breeder or shop as proof of purchase/transfer of ownership? Surely she should have a book to write down who, what, when, where and why she got an animal. Knowing it's origin is very important, surely. If she hasn't been keeping a record of her animals and their origins, I sure hope she starts soon so she avoids another unnecessary kick-off.

Says she does all this endless research yet she needed people to tell her to stop using red heat lamps and stop quarantining animals in her bathroom... and that smoking in a room with the Satanic Leaf Geckos is bad.

Again, that line of reasoning doesn't make much sense to me but whatever.

No mention of keeping animals in closet.

And no, sadly, we were not given a reason why she is dating a "sober" addict, criminal, rapist, abuser, just a an overall, horrible human being.

I'm kind of confused about her getting rats that need loads of exercise outside of their enclosure. Feeder rats aren't socialised either. She has 3 cats now and a Roughneck monitor. Who and what goes where when the rats are out? Or when the monitor is out? If the cats get in the room where the rats are, that's dangerous for both parties and stressful for the rats.

 

So, it was a bit of a crying fest in that video. I didn't really get much insight in it. She remained defensive and made excuses or downplayed her irresponsible behaviour.

Only thing of note for me was her saying she got too many animals because she was in a bad place earlier this year and she plans to get more animals but slow down.

 

 

(If I remembered anything incorrectly, my apologies, watched the video yesterday.)

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Spoiler in wrong place. I cannot get it right.
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She's stated she does in a video. We both have type 3. It's very possible she has it mildly. I have a moderate-severe case. I don't have any deathly serious symptoms but I'm becoming crippled in my mid 20s and steadily getting worse.

 

 

Yeah, I have cEDS, from my understanding people with hEDS usually have worse joint problems but my joint issues are so severe I’m on disability and spend the majority of my time at specialists and physical therapy. I couldn’t imagine caring for pets, that’s why I think if she has it, it’s very mild 

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The comments under that video that talk about the animals dying are genuinely pissing me off lol

"its not like she was purposefully killing them!! its okay!!" Like, no, and the whole point is she was careless, not taking anyone else's advice in some cases, and not doing proper research on the animals she buys on impulse.

Yeah, you could argue it's not as bad as her intentionally abusing them to the point that they die, but you can't use that as an excuse to say she did nothing wrong.

A couple people pointed out how after she got the rats and put hay in with them, she didn't change it out until she was called out on it and told why they shouldn't have hay (i'm a bit ignorant on rats as I don't own any and have no info on them myself so i'm going off of comments over this lol). And in the replies to these comments, they (her fans) are using this as an excuse to say she's still not in the wrong because "look, she changed it! she's not abusing them! she's the perfect animal hoarder owner!!!" The whole point is she should've done her research FIRST before buying any new animal she was unfamiliar with. But that's too difficult for them to grasp.

Her fans get to me way more than she does for some reason. Literally nothing gets through to them. Even when she finally admits to being wrong about something, they're still in the comments going off about how she's totally not wrong and she doesn't need to apologize and we're just haters with nothing better to do 9_9

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Yeah, I have cEDS, from my understanding people with hEDS usually have worse joint problems but my joint issues are so severe I’m on disability and spend the majority of my time at specialists and physical therapy. I couldn’t imagine caring for pets, that’s why I think if she has it, it’s very mild 

 

I'd agree. I only have one cat, I have over 100 plants though and those are already almost too much work and they only need to be watered weekly at most lol

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Her brushing over the rag doll kitten thing was funny.  She neglected to mention she posted a photo of purebred rag dolls from Craigslist, deleted it after backlash, and somehow found a kitten of that same age and breed at a Petco despite it being too young to legally sell

huh

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I'm not going to watch that whole video, but at least she did...something? Did she at least offer any way that she could amend her actions? Did she mention getting rid of some of the animals that she currently has, or is she just going to let some of them die off? Maybe I'll sift through and make a nice transcript free of the repetition and crying.

That's pretty yikes that she doesn't keep any record whatsoever of where she gets her animals. I feel like that would be logged somewhere for veterinary care reasons. Do any of these animals ever see a vet regularly?

 

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I'm not going to watch that whole video, but at least she did...something? Did she at least offer any way that she could amend her actions? Did she mention getting rid of some of the animals that she currently has, or is she just going to let some of them die off? Maybe I'll sift through and make a nice transcript free of the repetition and crying.

That's pretty yikes that she doesn't keep any record whatsoever of where she gets her animals. I feel like that would be logged somewhere for veterinary care reasons. Do any of these animals ever see a vet regularly?

 

 

Getting rid of her animals? God no! She said in the end of the video that she still plans on getting MORE ANIMALS. But at a slower rate so it is totallllllly okay. She has even bought a new pair of crocodile skinks to replace the pair that died. 

 

She seriously needs to stop getting more animals - and actually get rid of some of them, and if she wants to work with animals she can become a zookeeper or actual animal educator. (where she educates about animals she does not own herself) If her illness makes her unable to work these jobs then she is certainly not able to care for the animals he has night now!

She has said that she takes care of the animals 3 times a day everyday herself. If that was true then the accident with the heat mats would not have happened! 

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Getting rid of her animals? God no! She said in the end of the video that she still plans on getting MORE ANIMALS. But at a slower rate so it is totallllllly okay. She has even bought a new pair of crocodile skinks to replace the pair that died. 

 

She seriously needs to stop getting more animals - and actually get rid of some of them, and if she wants to work with animals she can become a zookeeper or actual animal educator. (where she educates about animals she does not own herself) If her illness makes her unable to work these jobs then she is certainly not able to care for the animals he has night now!

She has said that she takes care of the animals 3 times a day everyday herself. If that was true then the accident with the heat mats would not have happened! 

 

That disgusts me, as a house plant nerd if I fucking kill a plant I refuse to buy another until I learn what I did wrong so that I can keep it from happening again. I put more care and effort into the quality of life my plants have than she does for her animals.

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Isn't she in a relationship with a really bad person who's extremely abusive, or was in one? She has my sympathy, but she has way too many pets and doesn't treat them so well.

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I believe that she doesn't have malicious intents and that she's really at least trying to give her pets the best care she can. I just think that she has maybe bitten off a bigger piece than she can chew and she just has too many animals to take care of, especially when you take into consideration her health conditions which seem to affect her energy levels a lot. I think she should just focus on whatever she has now and not get any more animals so she can properly work on her own health at the same time so she can be 100% there for her pets. I don't really buy into the conspiracy theories of her secretly replacing animals, it just seems like a big reach & honestly doesn't even seem like something she would do.I also feel like the electricity malfunction was something that was mostly out of her control. I'm no electrician so I can't really say much about that.

As for the hoarding accusations - it seems to me that she just somehow feels really strongly obligated to take in neglected animals and she gets super attached to them very quickly. Idk if she feels like nobody else would take care of them or what her deal is. I'm sure there are a lot of places she could take them where they would receive proper care instead of burdening herself more. I wouldn't go as far as calling it hoarding but she has made a lot of very impulsive decisions in the past and I feel like it's starting to overwhelm her a bit along with all the drama that seems to be constantly surrounding her. But the amount of money she has spent on custom cages/enclosures, the diet she seems to be feeding her pets and the general cleanliness of her apartment (judging from whatever glimpses we see in the background sometimes) doesn't really scream hoarder to me.

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