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Taylor R - videos #2

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I've been lurking this site for months, but I ended up making an account after the Men's club video that Taylor made... it all seems like bad excuses? Like honestly, her wording just seems like "don't like? don't look." basically justifying him and his site for all of this. I thought she was decently okay and the only truly bad person was ew-san... but now I don't even trust her anymore. She basically agrees, is okay with it and told everyone to suck it up and it all seemed a bit manipulative? I'm sad at Taylor I though she was just maybe unaware of how bad his site was :alpacaworry2:

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I have only one thing to say in defense of this video and is that Jemima is a swimwear model and her instagram is seriously disgusting but they are public.
Said this I'm really disappointed in Taylor for making this video. As Samtaro111 said, she did use manipulative tactics talking about who work for this site, and their family etc. And it's really a low move. It's their fault to begin with if they have these kind of backlash. You can't make articles about "schools uniform" and says it's an innocet thing while it's obviously a fetish and siding it with pictures of a 13 years old in swimwear. You can watch but you can't touch... that's what a lot of pedos do.
He is in charge of the site, if there is something that it's not appropriate he should delete it, not send her wifey on youtube defending him.

She knows that the site is disgusting and fishy. Her chest rash doesn't lie.

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Betting that Tom forced Taylor into making this video because her friends and family found this all disgusting, too. I could see him rubbing in her face why he never wanted to be public and blaming her saying this is all her fault now.. which isn’t fair to Taylor, but this is what happens. 

I can see her cracking from this, the video just made it 100x worse by showing her followers that knew nothing about it to bringing it to their attention now with the gross 13 year old post that she keeps defending. (Although a lot of the comments make then seem pretty dense/ blind, too)

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Taylor, of course you're trying to defend this s*it, that's where the money comes from right? Even though you actually disagree...Funny, somehow she and some of the comments are making us seem like the bad guys that hate her sooo bad, but honestly his thread has been pretty positive...comments like "she looks good with this makeup" or "this outfit is great" or "nice video" whatever. Nobody is jealous of you jeez. Why would I want to sell myself to a sketchy guy? She also looks damn depressed.

But what really bothers me is that Tom has been called out on Instagram about the 13 year old model post and he kept saying "there is nothing wrong about it, there is nothing wrong about it" instead of saying "yes it could be morally wrong, I apologize, this should be taken down". Having a 13 year old posing in bikini, in a "sexual" manner on a men's website is wrong and if her parents are supporting this it's f'ed up. Not even on Instagram it's ok what she's doing but this website is dedicated specifically for men's fun. Nobody should defend the one who posted this.

And god I will never forget Tom's reply to "What if you had a daughter, would you approve this?"...sooo... the reserved guy won't let his kids show their faces on camera on Tay's channel, but would agree with soft porn at 13?

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Taylor, of course you're trying to defend this s*it, that's where the money comes from right? Even though you actually disagree...Funny, somehow she and some of the comments are making us seem like the bad guys that hate her sooo bad, but honestly his thread has been pretty positive...comments like "she looks good with this makeup" or "this outfit is great" or "nice video" whatever. Nobody is jealous of you jeez. Why would I want to sell myself to a sketchy guy? She also looks damn depressed.

But what really bothers me is that Tom has been called out on Instagram about the 13 year old model post and he kept saying "there is nothing wrong about it, there is nothing wrong about it" instead of saying "yes it could be morally wrong, I apologize, this should be taken down". Having a 13 year old posing in bikini, in a "sexual" manner on a men's website is wrong and if her parents are supporting this it's f'ed up. Not even on Instagram it's ok what she's doing but this website is dedicated specifically for men's fun. Nobody should defend the one who posted this.

And god I will never forget Tom's reply to "What if you had a daughter, would you approve this?"...sooo... the reserved guy won't let his kids show their faces on camera on Tay's channel, but would agree with soft porn at 13?

 

I just really don't see why people think there's nothing wrong with a 13 year old girl being made to pose in suggestive ways and in little, barely naked,clothing (just bc she's not fully nude or whatever doesn't make it any less creepy). She's not to blame, she's 13 there's not much she can do, its the parents and the people who think it's okay to for adult men to jerk it to a 13 year old and still not be considered a pedophile. 

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Her saying that the girl posted photos on her own Instagram is a really weird defense since, you know, the reason people are mad is because it was posted on a mens site that features sexy models. My little sister posts vacation photos on her social media and uuuh I would flip shit if it was shared on a forum for adult men.

The only good defense she had was that Tom didn't write the articles, which is fair. He should use his leadership role to make changes to the site and educating the writers.

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Ok my problem with all of this is how she ostracizes her own fans for "misunderstanding the situation". Like she said it herself it's easy to "misinterpret" information when it's on a foreign website. These people going around spreading information about the  website found something they thought was deplorable and didn't feel comfortable keeping it to themselves. Who would be? Instead of saying "these people" or "people who have something against me" she should have addressed them personally and been like "hey, a lot of people were concerned about this website, and I understand why, but I want to explain to you how you've misread this entire situation." Why go on about "them" "them" "them" and lawsuits. That could've waited until after this video was released. She's ready to make anyone who is skeptical an enemy.

 

Also lol at her not addressing PULL or Lolcow by name. Like... if you're gonna call a group of people out actually CALL THEM OUT. 

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What is funny is that her fans think we are offended by girls showing nudity when it's the underage girl is what we are disturb by. Yes we have seen butts and nipples. / Eye roll

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With this statement we can call whole J-pop, K-pop and anime/manga industry disgusting.

 

Fucking exactly. I bet everyone here shitting their pants also enjoy crap like AKB48 or morning musume which does the same fucking shit. Teenage girls in bikinis. As young as 13.

Dumbass hypocrites 

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Fucking exactly. I bet everyone here shitting their pants also enjoy crap like AKB48 or morning musume which does the same fucking shit. Teenage girls in bikinis. As young as 13.

Dumbass hypocrites 

 

Everyone thinks that's creepy though. Unless you're a complete sociopath it's hard to argue that the way idols in Japan and Korea are overworked and hyper sexualised is okay. The idea of underage gravure makes most people in western society uncomfortable for obvious reasons. Who here is defending it? Only people like Taylor who say it's just a different culture or schoolgirl fetishes are innocent/not inherently related to sexualising children are the people defending it. Everyone who has a problem with MC knows that isn't okay and would be equally uncomfortable if elbowsan were making his money through a business like that too.

 
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Tay-liar and Ew-san sure are a power couple.

1. “They wear what they want to wear” - absolutely NOT. It is up to the photographer and the client that is publishing the content to make sure that the model is dressed appropriately according to their age to avoid legal trouble. If a 13 year old wants to dress up in lingerie are they going to agree to that because that’s what she wants to wear? What if she wants to pose naked? Where do you draw the line Taylor? A child in a 2 piece isn’t inherently wrong but context matters and content like that is not meant to be posted on suggestive, implied, or pornographic websites where the purpose is for viewers to get off on women’s bodies.

2. Taking the blame off of Ew-San because he doesn’t write the articles - he is the owner of the company and therefore it is his responsibility to monitor what is published on his website or hire people who will. I don’t care if a million people write for MC. You either handle it or you’re not suited to run a business. What Taylor is saying is that he doesn’t even have control over his own company.

3. Victimizing herself and claiming that we’re jealous haters - the reason I go on PULL and not other gossip forums is because the users here want online personalities to better themselves and to succeed. The majority of people here rooted for Taylor and commended her when she did something good, while at the same time offering contructive criticism when she did something bad. I can also vouch that nobody here is jealous. Until recently I always avoided this thread because I found her and her life to be boring af, she destroyed her natural beauty, and is married to a man who makes me nauseous. I’m green with envy. 

4. OT - I don’t know if anyone caught this but the moment with Rosie felt like a jab at PULL in response to users commenting on how she doesn’t spend any time with her dog anymore. Taylor lives like a slave to gossip forums. Except when it comes to sexualizing minors. Then she decides to be her own person ¬¬

I used to find Taylor to be a good person, albeit a bit troubled inside, and although I didn’t agree with many things she did I ultimately rooted for her and hoped she would improve. This is the first time she has really shown the toxic, snowflake-y, dishonest side of her and it turned me off so much that I don’t think I’m rooting for her anymore.

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Fucking exactly. I bet everyone here shitting their pants also enjoy crap like AKB48 or morning musume which does the same fucking shit. Teenage girls in bikinis. As young as 13.

Dumbass hypocrites 

 

Yeah actually. Fuck that too. Lol

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On Instagram Elbow said he was taking down the article with 13 year old. He said after looking at it from a different perspective he saw how it could be wrong. (I don’t see how he ever thought this was appropriate but...?) He said he is going to be more hands on with his staff and is talking to them about things they write. He really screwed himself by acting like nothing was wrong for what a month..? If he had apologized and took it down immediately I think that would have been much better. I don’t think the people who harassed Taylor’s fiends and family are right, but this is a really gross situation and I think they both kind of did a poor job addressing it. (Sorry I didn’t put this into the relationship thread, but Ifigured it was fine because it had todo with video) I wonder if E isseriously going to watch what’s posted or if it’s all just damage control 

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