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Margaret Palermo

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(sorry if all of this doesn't really make sense, it's 3am and I'm not in a very good place right now :alpacadone:)

 

Same tbh but I think we both said what we wanted eloquently enough  :alpacacrush: 

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For me, I've been in the exact same position of Margo and her mother.

I had my mother do the exact same shit with being physically (+ emotionally) abusive/showing my journals/thought I was crazy (actually was diagnosed with bipolar disorder yet she still would call me 'psyco' and other names, moving me away from family etc. So I do sorta understand where Venus is coming from believe it or not :0 

With Venus's situation, I do not know the exact details but generally I can relate to it all which is why I was talking the way I was. It took me a long time to gain trust back with my mother and with most of my extended family too, I still do hold grudges against my mom and family sometimes because yes, it is hard to get past abuse.

I really do believe Margo needs help, I think she strongly needs to go to a therapist but I can not make her go, my mother refused to go also, but this comes from where the person believes it's not their fault/they're okay/justifying themselves which is why they may attempt to avoid it- they're unable to want to change themselves but others. I think Venus needs to improve on taking her problems head on, I tried to ignore them and nothing changed but change starts with yourself and yourself only- I'm glad Venus moved away and is getting help but there is a lot more she could do to improve. She also needs to have a good talk with her dad, if he likes it or not. 

I would be saying this also to anyone if anyone had anyone abusive in their life, it is not just a family thing.

Venus will always be wary of her mother and whoever else was involved, she may attempt to trust them but trust is earned, not given. Venus may never trust her mother again but it would be good if they could set a boundary or setting up a wall of where they are in their relationship. Such as saying to Margo (as Venus) that she does not want to talk to her, or that she wants Margo to go to therapy if Margo would like to discuss with Venus again. Keeping things regulated but so they're both in control with their responsibilties. 

I'm not defending Margo here or Venus, I'm quite proud of what Venus has done so far but they both need to improve on themselves and their problem solving, I'm not asking Venus to become best friends with Margo either but keeping grudges will kill their relationship forever eventually. The worst thing you can hold is a grudge.

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Not to be the asshole but to make a comparison to someone else everyone knows: In a custody hearing for his kids Alex Jones was revealed to have had been diagnosed with Narcissistic personality disorder.

Look at how fucking nuts Alex Jones is in public. He made a career out of his pants on head crazy bullshit. He's probably being ordered to go to counseling sessions to have any contact with his kids and he can't keep his crazy down during those sessions. He takes his clothes off during counseling sessions. His lawyers tried to have him go with being a performance artist instead of actually crazy and it didn't work out. 

If Margo is as crazy as Alex Jones would you want to forgive her or have a relationship with her? Would you be willing to do ANYTHING with that person if they tried to throw your notes in your face as proof of their delusions? We all know that Margo isn't getting any kind of mental help in Korea. Never mind the fact that she wouldn't be caught dead admitting to be as crazy as she very obviously is, but we know she's not getting help because she couldn't communicate with the health care system well enough to get reputable flu medicine. 

Alex Jones 100% believes that there is something in the water making the frogs gay and he thinks taking off the cuff videos of himself in a sweat stained shirt in hotels is a valuable contribution to society. Margo 100% believes she has protected Venus from taking the blame for all the things Venus has 'done.' And when I say things Venus has done I mean every time Margo flew into a blind rage and decided to blame Venus, likely saying things like: 'Look at what you did, making me break into your house because you wouldn't let me inside. Making me shut down your Youtube account because you wouldn't give me the money. Making me homeless for x days despite the fact that I had the money for a hotel and I just wanted to get into yours an Manaki's home." 

I don't know that I wouldn't pretend I was placed on this earth by aliens and just so happened to have no parents if Margo was my mother. 

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Venus has said that Margo's thrown a knife at her before and I just kind of shiver thinking about that.  I'd say that's a 'Danger, Avoid' sign if I've ever seen one

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Oh man I can't agree with you guys more! I never had any interest in Venus or her channel until I read all this drama and all I want to do is just support her in her decisions in this case. I think she is making the right decision for her. 

Venus should put focus on continuing to thrive and grow.  Enjoy her freedom, get the damn fuzziest cat she can find, kiss her cute af boyfriend and get some more hickies, make weird jokes and enjoy some yummy food.  Keep putting effort and love into the channel she cares so much about and make herself some nice new goals to keep growing as a person.  And just.. Live her life without Margo's shadow clouding her days you know?  

   

 SO MANY YESES! The furriest, purriest cat! Margo is like cancer and cutting the cancer out has worked for Venus and hopefully it'll stay that way!

 

 

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Venus should put focus on continuing to thrive and grow.  Enjoy her freedom, get the damn fuzziest cat she can find, kiss her cute af boyfriend and get some more hickies, make weird jokes and enjoy some yummy food.  Keep putting effort and love into the channel she cares so much about and make herself some nice new goals to keep growing as a person.  And just.. Live her life without Margo's shadow clouding her days you know?  

 

Aww, that's so nicely worded like a little prep/motivational talk. I wish she would read that. it warms my heart.

Attention attention, Venus fan found! White knight Alarm *eeeow eeow* (Sirene sound) Sailor Earth is a Venus fan!

Haha, obviously I am kidding. :alpacacrush:

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Some of my photoshop masterpeices. Still not a pro but I'm proud.

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Some of my photoshop masterpeices. Still not a pro but I'm proud.

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Thanks for the nightmares! 

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Some of my photoshop masterpeices. Still not a pro but I'm proud.

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This is what I see when I get sleep paralysis

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In my opinion, it's Margo's own parents' responsibility to encourage her to get the help she needs and be there for her no matter what because she's their child. It's not the child's responsibility unless their parent is elderly or disabled, for example. It must be painful for Venus but I don't see why she should act like a mother to her own psycho mother. 

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Some of my photoshop masterpeices. Still not a pro but I'm proud.

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Oh my god, I keep laughing and saying oh my god, as my stomach gets sore. Damn these shops are truly a masterpiece and a legend!

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She has a typical pageant mom. Despite that cutting ties with her primary caregiver at the time is surprisingly amazing. Especially when that's all she knew for the majority of her life. So props to her.

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