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Vic Mignogna


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In which kickVic prove they don't give a shit about the law or people. 

I heard talk of this becoming a new teaching aid and if it does I'm gonna laugh. 

They sure are because they can't pretend they're right anymore.  I wonder how everything is like right now. 

 

Duper's losing it, that's for sure. :hurrplz:

Gonna need all the tea. And maybe some wine. Gotta celebrate this massive victory.

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To quote Gordon Ramsay’s wise wisdom 

“You are fucking in denial”

I remember people thought Nick and Ty weren’t a real lawyers because how inept and childish they were. Well here we are, those two ain’t a real lawyers but a buffoon that somehow managed to became lawyer.

This slow motion trainwreck is the gift that keeps on giving.

Might well saves those #istandwithvic tweets or videos on YouTube I believe it will get deletes soon.

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Literally "the judge doesn't understand the law." Naturally, Nicky "no bar pass"  Racketeer is an expert though. :drool:

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Literally "the judge doesn't understand the law." Naturally, Nicky "no bar pass"  Racketeer is an expert though. :drool:

 

I fucking called it.

When they lose an aspect of the case? THE JUSTICE SYSTEM is suddenly the one that's in the wrong when they were the ones saying due process.

Pathetic.

Not to mention anyone saying "TI was always a possible miss" as if they weren't repeating it as a MAIN GAME WINNER for months on end.

It's okay to admit that you're wrong, we're still not sure about the other people in the case, but one person was completely cleared on what ISWV considered to be an important piece. 

so cut the shit.

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Candy Cane Anus (all credit to @Izaya Ori-YEE-HAW for that perfectly fitting nickname) is busy bitching about a judge. Why this idiot was granted a license to give therapy to other human beings I’ll never understand. 

5E8FDF13-8C04-4218-83DD-539911765DC3.thuLol here’s a hot take from ZeroHei. 

 

As predicted most of them are somewhere between complete denial or trashing the judge. 

 

 

 

 

I'm quite the poet, but I think it was actually Lain who coined the Candy Cane Anus.

I did come up with Zero the Hero though--due to his not-so-heroic actions with his buddy Ice Poseidon. He can lie to himself and his followers until the cows come home, but no goal post has been moved. Today was the Hearing, not the final Verdict. Having most of the charges dismissed so early was an early Christmas present, and even if no further charges get dismissed, I'd still be content the delicious justice served today.

 

 

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This is going to be a long post and I apologize for not using cut but I’m on mobile. 

I decided to check in with all the Lickers who’ve been posted prominently in these threads. Watching their whining, wailing and denial is just too good not to share. Enjoy:

First up we have the captain of this doomed ship: 

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LOL Beard, we all have a basic idea of how it went for you today thanks to multiple witnesses. You’re done sweatie. 

Next we have The Man Who Fucked the Hornets Nest: 

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whining and sucking dick at the same time! HOW DOES HE DO IT?

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Chair-Kim has been off fighting with another ISWV member who turned out to be a predator...so surprised. But he did take time to try to salvage some of the wreckage by encouraging the others to wait for daddy Nick to indoctrinate them again. 

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The Green One is “taking a break from Twitter” for the billionth time. That’ll last. 

 

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Dupe is busy posting cringe videos comparing Vic to Katniss Everdeen. Lol

 

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Candy Cane Anus (all credit to @Izaya Ori-YEE-HAW for that perfectly fitting nickname) is busy bitching about a judge. Why this idiot was granted a license to give therapy to other human beings I’ll never understand. 

5E8FDF13-8C04-4218-83DD-539911765DC3.thuLol here’s a hot take from ZeroHei. 

 

As predicted most of them are somewhere between complete denial or trashing the judge. 

 

 

 

 

As expected from them. We all knew they would either be:

A: In denial or
B: Blaming the judge

We all called it.

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These people need to get a dose of reality.

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These people need to get a dose of reality.

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They're gonna blame everyone and everything they can before getting a half a dose of reality.

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I'm quite the poet, but I think it was actually Lain who coined the Candy Cane Anus.

I did come up with Zero the Hero though--due to his not-so-heroic actions with his buddy Ice Poseidon. He can lie to himself and his followers until the cows come home, but no goal post has been moved. Today was the Hearing, not the final Verdict. Having most of the charges dismissed so early was an early Christmas present, and even if no further charges get dismissed, I'd still be content the delicious justice served today.

 

 

 

Is it really any wonder that the guy with the neckbeard-ass profile picture has neckbeard-ass opinions? You're shattering his world by making it clear how shitty his taste is. Pretty sure the harder vic gets kicked, the more this guy will align himself with him. 

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These people need to get a dose of reality.

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You know what's really hilarious? Null owns Kiwi Farms and has said he can't stand Vic lickers and makes fun of them on his twitter.

 

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Get the link from the twitter. Click Insert Other Media and Insert Image from URL

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5E8FDF13-8C04-4218-83DD-539911765DC3.thuLol here’s a hot take from ZeroHei. 

 

As predicted most of them are somewhere between complete denial or trashing the judge. 

 

 

 

 

oh, not lickers talking about "moving goal posts", the way they eventually had to admit that Vic would lose against Jamie and the win wouldn't be the landslide victory they originally thought it would be when he first lawyered up! 😂😂 They're the ones who are throwing the tantrum, there's literally none of that here. 

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oh, not lickers talking about "moving goal posts", the way they eventually had to admit that Vic would lose against Jamie and the win wouldn't be the landslide victory they originally thought it would be when he first lawyered up! 😂😂 They're the ones who are throwing the tantrum, there's literally none of that here. 

 

Sore loser is what they are

anyway in 30day let see how much more of a tantrum they will throw 

 

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Good evening #threadnought - let's talk attorney's fees, and how they work in a case like this.

Fair warning: I have neither the time nor inclination tonight to do Texas law research, so I'm going to be going on a broad view of the subject.
That said, I had to do pretty extensive research on this subject a couple of times, including once for a judge. And a lot of that research looked at national trends. So I might not be on the mark, but I shouldn't be too far off.
Let's start - for our overseas followers - with a basic principle that surprises most of the rest of the world: The American Rule.

In most of the world, the loser pays the winner's attorneys' fees. In the USA, the rule is that each side bears its own fees win or lose.
There are some exceptions, however. The biggest is this: the American Rule can be overridden by statute. That means that the legislature can put a "loser pays" provision into the law.

Anti-SLAPP laws, as a rule, have such provisions. This is certainly true in Texas.
The TCPA requires that a losing plaintiff pay the defendant's fees. Today, @vicmignogna lost his entire case against @marchimark, so he's on the hook for her fees. This does not, however, mean that her lawyer, Sam "Magnificant Bastard" Johnson, will just mail Vic his bill.
The amount awarded will be determined by the court. Generally speaking, courts use a "lodestar approach" for all intents and purposes, this consists of the defendant sending the bill to the court for review, and the court determining if both the hourly rate and number of hours...
 ...were reasonable, and making adjustments if the court feels the bill is too high.

The plaintiff usually can object on a line-item basis, and I'd assume that will happen here.
As someone who has had to review billing records for a judge, I wouldn't want to understate (Sam? You listening?) the importance of clearly presented, detailed, and easy-to-follow records.
 Fees are available for both full and partial wins. There are a lot of ways partial win fees can be handled, ranging from "total amount divided by percentage victory" to "only fees you can show were accrued on the stuff you won" to "if you substantially prevailed, you get it all."
No idea what approach Texas uses; we'll cross that one if we get to it.

For full fees - which we know Marchi gets - Sam's job is to show the court that his hourly is reasonable, and the time spent was reasonable. Or be embarrassed when the court tells him what was reasonable.
And time spent on embedding secret messages might not be viewed as reasonable. Even if it was magnificent and damn funny.
 As for how much -
I'm going to do some extremely crude guesswork right now. This is seriously going to lowball the hell out of everything, possibly including the hourly rate (and if so I apologize for the insult to Sam's dignity.)
To be clear: I didn't mean to imply that Sam would bill for that; I'm pretty sure that was a bonus for everyone. Just an example of something that a court might adjust
 
Actually, given how the hearing went, I would be surprised if Sam doesn't get virtually all of his hours approved. (Fairly common for a court to ding a couple of small things, as that shows the appellate court that the invoice was "meaningfully reviewed" and not rubberstamped.)
o - let's do a massive lowball estimate of the possible fee award.

Here, I have relatively little experience, so I'm sure that Akiva, Lane, T-dot, and basically everyone else will be along to tell me I screwed up shortly. (This is part of the reason I'm looking to err low.)
So let's start by undervaluing Mr. Johnson's time at only $350 per hour - I'd be stunned if it's that low, but remember this is a best case of best cases for Vic.
 I'll start by assuming 10 hours for the initial period - being hired, initial research, reading the petition, all of that - so that's $3,500.

Next, I'm just going to go to a lazy but simple method, and say that everything he wrote was done at 1 page per hour.
That's intended to cover drafting, revising, reviewing, research, the whole shooting match. It's a really crude estimate, in other words, for a lot of work.

3 pages for the answer.
18 pages for the TCPA motion
16 pages for the Reply.
37 x 350 = 12,950

Running total: $16,450
Now, do the depositions. He was there for all of all of them, but wasn't the primary questioner. I'm going to lowball his prep time, and - in the interest of round numbers and going to sleep, estimate 10 hours per deposition for him.
30*350 = 10,500

Running total: $26,950
And let's fold in this week. Safe to assume about 10 hours per day for Sat, Sun, Mon, between unravelling Ty's mess and communicating with other lawyers, reviewing filings, hearing strategy, etc. Call it another 20 total from Tues through today. 50 total hours.
That's another 17,500.

Running total: $44,450.


That's a lowball estimate, remember. It also doesn't directly factor in many, many other tasks, including reading all the other filings in the case. Even if we just call it 1 more hour per week for the 19 weeks...
..we're now over the $50,000 mark.

That's just Marchi. That's a massive lowball estimate. And that's over 20% of the total in the GFM.
 And remember - that was the easiest defense case out of the bunch, and the one that's likely to have the least amount of hours worked. By far the least, in fact.
And that's before sanctions. Sanctions are at the discretion of the judge. But if there was ever a case for sanctions, it's this. The case was sanctionable before Ty's notary misadventures and the filing of the sham affidavit. If Sam makes a good case on that stuff?
It wouldn't surprise me if he gets additional sanctions equal to his fees.

So, particularly if you make allowances for how much I'm lowballing the likely fees bill, it's not impossible that the loss on the Marchi claims alone will be about half the value of the GFM.

 

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