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General Venus Angelic Thread #3

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Wait, so, after months of not coming to check this thread, Andromeda Galaxy is STILL here being actively rude and nasty towards other members, making them get away from the discussion, and they haven't gotten any warnings from it from mods? Wow.

That's very interesting...also not surprised. 

 

yeah, it’s fucking baffling. I’ve agreed with some things they said but overall there seems to be strong intention to police other’s opinions/feelings and a hatred for Venus, even though she clearly isn’t mentally well. Derailing for the sake of argument isn’t cool either.

Venus definitely needs to be held accountable for her actions but the amount of venom I’ve seen being spewed from this user doesn’t sit well with me either.

also @IdylleDoll your previous post is insightful and amazing. As much as I’ve been “angry” with Venus in the past, I don’t think my frustrations truly lied with her. But more so what she’s become as a result of her upbringing. Took me a little while to realize that.

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I think she could fair better getting a part time job in Sweden or Germany better than in Japan, but the cost of living is pretty high in those countries. She needs an actual source of income. Her last " video" was 34 secs, three weeks ago, and only got 100k views. I am aware that being a YTer is a job and one can make a good living off of it. But not when you're doing it like that.

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yeah, it’s fucking baffling. I’ve agreed with some things they said but overall there seems to be strong intention to police other’s opinions/feelings and a hatred for Venus, even though she clearly isn’t mentally well. Derailing for the sake of argument isn’t cool either.

Venus definitely needs to be held accountable for her actions but the amount of venom I’ve seen being spewed from this user doesn’t sit well with me either.

also @IdylleDoll your previous post is insightful and amazing. As much as I’ve been “angry” with Venus in the past, I don’t think my frustrations truly lied with her. But more so what she’s become as a result of her upbringing. Took me a little while to realize that.

 

Aww thank you so much, you are too kind. :meowplz:

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I think she could fair better getting a part time job in Sweden or Germany better than in Japan, but the cost of living is pretty high in those countries. She needs an actual source of income. Her last " video" was 34 secs, three weeks ago, and only got 100k views. I am aware that being a YTer is a job and one can make a good living off of it. But not when you're doing it like that.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Venus has no skills or qualifications and didn't finish high school or  has any sort of home school equivalent of a high school certificate, so her chances of getting a good -non sleazy- job is quite slim. So aside from dealing with her mental health issues she's gotta go and get at least some basic education before she can even get a basic part time job in order to earn enough money to even leave Japan if that's what she decides to do, it's kinda sad. 

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Being “horrified” and “worried for Venus” is a black hole that will suck you dry. This is what Borderlines do, play victim and manipulate everyone’s feelings. She’s been doing this for exactly 4 years now. If you want to get sucked into this vortex go right ahead, spend your energy worrying and being horrified. Your choice. Personally I got off that roller coaster months ago.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

Venus is one thing a pwBPD are something entirely different. WHY is this blatant ableism allowed to run unchecked apparently for months? I'll make it clear that I'm not nor will I defend Venus, but generalizations like this derail (which I'm doing too, but apparently thats okay) and also are so lacking in compassion. Maybe you have your experience but this dehumanization of mentally ill people is fucking disgusting.

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Hopefully she is getting help and not just damage control, she cant just sit and drink forever, she's too young to give up now

If she really doesn't want to get any high school diploma, then hopefully she try to get regular work, when she has enough money, she can do that as a part time, and makes videos like when she lives with Manaki, exploring Japan and random shit, stuff that she actually seems to enjoy y'know

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I'm not sure if someone posted on here but a week ago  Venus made another IG post about her being in the process of getting better and that she was going to hospital this time. 

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There was this as well where she basically agreedScreenshot_20200125_113756.thumb.jpg.0b9

 

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There was this as well where she basically agreedScreenshot_20200125_113756.thumb.jpg.0b9

 

 

Would also like to point out that yes, it is possible to detect a mental illness through CT scans. Mainly in terms of abnormalities of the brain; if there are any tumours or things a healthy brain should not have. Any abnormality can affect a person's overall mental well being. Remember, the brain is a computer, and if, say, one component isn't working correctly, it can bring the whole system out of order. 

Obviously you can't detect mental illness itself, but you can detect a possible source for it. Not saying this is true for Venus, or even defending her -- just wanted to drop that note that there are various reasons for mental illness. All the way from too many hormones being produced, to something like an undetected head injury.

I personally don't think it's right what that person commented to her, whether we agree or otherwise. But that's a whole different can of worms.

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There was this as well where she basically agreedScreenshot_20200125_113756.thumb.jpg.0b9

 

 

well if i were her i will be saying the same. Itd  be too mentally exhausting and challenging to deal with these kinda people. Didnt they know they just contributing from the fact that a person is at the verge??? Then what, they'll be sorry for her when it gets too late? Im not on even Venus' side but damn people be doing too much 🙄 it sound exactly like that Andromeda Galaxy who made a statement here few responses ago saying on how manipulating venus and using her mental illness could be. Were not gonna tolerate that, but at any situation she could be dealing, could fit anything that relates the bad limelight from her mother. As a matter of fact  shes not the one she should be blaming at this moment on how she got in this point. Theres no actual human decency in here. Her growth is not your responsibility, she almost have no genuine people around her, growing up. If you cant be any help at all just shut the fuck up and GO.

Who are you to rub in peoples faces what mental illnesses they have???? 

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Tbh, if its mentally exhausting and she's tired of everything, just announce a break, like a year, say she wants to focus on making herself better but she will update once in awhile

But now, she cant do that, cause she obviously has a manager and need to keep making into random public appearances, god knows what she even does behind the scene 

And can you imagine how hard Koreans will rip her a new one when she's gonna be hosting that Anime event? With her broken Hangul and shit 

Also, does anyone recognize that car she's on in her new Insta pic? Our Kitano guy I'm assuming

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Venus has no skills or qualifications and didn't finish high school or  has any sort of home school equivalent of a high school certificate, so her chances of getting a good -non sleazy- job is quite slim. So aside from dealing with her mental health issues she's gotta go and get at least some basic education before she can even get a basic part time job in order to earn enough money to even leave Japan if that's what she decides to do, it's kinda sad. 

 

Oh please. There are plenty of non sleazy jobs that don't require a high school diploma! Waitress, delivery/courier, junior shop assisstant, promoter handing out fliers, cleaning lady of any facility, receptionist of non-medical facilities - and many more! Sure, that won't uphold a luxurious lifestyle, especially with no previous job experience or skills, but she can still earn a sustainable albeit not rich salary that plenty of non-e-celeb-wannabe people earn. There is no need to look down on these jobs considering that's the level Venus is on without education and skills. Too bad she doesn't want to actually put in any effort and just wants to be famous.

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Oh please. There are plenty of non sleazy jobs that don't require a high school diploma! Waitress, delivery/courier, junior shop assisstant, promoter handing out fliers, cleaning lady of any facility, receptionist of non-medical facilities - and many more! Sure, that won't uphold a luxurious lifestyle, especially with no previous job experience or skills, but she can still earn a sustainable albeit not rich salary that plenty of non-e-celeb-wannabe people earn. There is no need to look down on these jobs considering that's the level Venus is on without education and skills. Too bad she doesn't want to actually put in any effort and just wants to be famous.

 

There is still the chance to finish her school externally anytime.

I hope that photo is flipped, if not, that would mean she sits in the driver seat.
(don't forget people, that in Japan they drive on the left side)

 

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I don't think that she would go to her family. They are the same people who not only raised Margo to be the awful manipulator that she is, but also didn't do a single thing all those years when Margo ignored basic concepts of parenting a young child, for example that you shouldn't parentify it and make it work to pay bills, move it from country to country and not give it an education. It would be great if Margo supported Venus being a YouTuber as a hobby or after school activity, but a 13-year-old shouldn't be stuck inside for years with no friends just editing videos. I don't think that Venus can bond or trust people because she never learned to or had a mentally stable caretaker, so to take such a big step and trust them and ask them for help seems very unlikely.

We don't know enough about these people to make such conclusions though. I'm sure mental illness probably runs through the family, but you don't raise people to be like Margo sometimes they just are like that. Yes upbringing can play a role but we don't know. I can't diagnose Margo but she seems like a classic narc. We don't know if the family tried to interfere or could even interfere legally. I don't mean to bash you I just think it's weird to say such things about a family we don't know much about. I don't know what would be the best for Venus to do rn, her situation is pretty vague as well. I just hope for her she'll reach a better place soon.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Venus has no skills or qualifications and didn't finish high school or  has any sort of home school equivalent of a high school certificate, so her chances of getting a good -non sleazy- job is quite slim. So aside from dealing with her mental health issues she's gotta go and get at least some basic education before she can even get a basic part time job in order to earn enough money to even leave Japan if that's what she decides to do, it's kinda sad. 

 

I mean even it is like working at a grocery store. Im sure she could get a job at Aldi's. Im not expecting her to get a career or a really high pay job when she returns home just to clairify. But she can get something that can help built her up and many if those jobs have decent benefits. Also in Germany&Sweden for example the Uni is free. She could work and get and education. She is still young so I think she can build back up. Only reason why I am saying she would fair better back where she's from is she wouldn't have to worry about visas. Even if she finds work and gets "paid under the table" ( for those not from the states this means getting paid only in cash because you're working illegally.) in Japan, she risks deportation if she is reported. And given the fact she is very public about her life, that would most likely happen pretty early on.

Again correct me if im wrong but if Manaki divorces her ( if he hasnt already) she can only remain in Japan with the spouse visa for a certain period of time its null&void? The max is 6months to 3 years I believe. Someone spoke about the visa in another thread but I couldn't find it sorry :/.

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just saw photos of venus while lurking the mikan thread and it's so sad :( seeing recent photos here vs a literal year ago

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