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General Venus Angelic Thread #3

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Being “horrified” and “worried for Venus” is a black hole that will suck you dry. This is what Borderlines do, play victim and manipulate everyone’s feelings. She’s been doing this for exactly 4 years now. If you want to get sucked into this vortex go right ahead, spend your energy worrying and being horrified. Your choice. Personally I got off that roller coaster months ago.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

i know where youre coming from but i wouldnt provoke that thought rn. Human brain is unpredictable and unstable at that state

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Being “horrified” and “worried for Venus” is a black hole that will suck you dry. This is what Borderlines do, play victim and manipulate everyone’s feelings. She’s been doing this for exactly 4 years now. If you want to get sucked into this vortex go right ahead, spend your energy worrying and being horrified. Your choice. Personally I got off that roller coaster months ago.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

Ok and? No one is actually part of her life here were here for a while and as regural people with emotions and empathy we can see that although her behaviour is self destructive and selfish at times she's also not living her vest life for herself. that's why people root for other people to be better especially people who end up messed up due to trauma. 

We get it stop saying this anytime someone is concerned their concern is not yours. 

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Wait, so, after months of not coming to check this thread, Andromeda Galaxy is STILL here being actively rude and nasty towards other members, making them get away from the discussion, and they haven't gotten any warnings from it from mods? Wow.

That's very interesting...also not surprised. 

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I don't think that she would go to her family. They are the same people who not only raised Margo to be the awful manipulator that she is, but also didn't do a single thing all those years when Margo ignored basic concepts of parenting a young child, for example that you shouldn't parentify it and make it work to pay bills, move it from country to country and not give it an education. It would be great if Margo supported Venus being a YouTuber as a hobby or after school activity, but a 13-year-old shouldn't be stuck inside for years with no friends just editing videos. I don't think that Venus can bond or trust people because she never learned to or had a mentally stable caretaker, so to take such a big step and trust them and ask them for help seems very unlikely.

Also, she needs a visa to move to a non-European country which means that she would have to save money, fix her appearence and get serious help for her alcoholism. Most European countries are very expensive and her only shot would be to live with family, possibly for years and start from getting a high school diploma. How many languages does she REALLY speak? Do you think any decent job would hire her with her English that sound like a toddler whose mom passed them the phone to say hi? How many work places would be ok with her haggard appearence?

I don't hate Venus at all, I think at some point we all make mistakes, it's a normal part of human existence and it's important to own up to them and change our lives, even with babysteps. Her abusive upbringing was not her fault, since children are powerless. But she doesn't seem to accept that she can't be the kawaii baby forever and that she needs to reparent herself and even make friends with loneliness without the crutch of alcohol or toxic online attention. I know it's very hard. But what's the alternative? There is a sexist element of ageism in Asian countries, where women over 28 are considered leftovers. What happens when she is 28 or looks 40 bc of alcohol and can't even get the gigs she gets?

 

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You're like a broken record. Why don't you give it a rest?

 

I agree it is getting on my nerves.

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I'm not sure if someone posted on here but a week ago  Venus made another IG post about her being in the process of getting better and that she was going to hospital this time. 

vvvvvvenushelp.thumb.JPG.389747a161b0db3 I really hope this is true and that she gets the help she needs. 

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I'm not sure if someone posted on here but a week ago  Venus made another IG post about her being in the process of getting better and that she was going to hospital this time. 

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Fingers crossed she gets help! 

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Wait, so, after months of not coming to check this thread, Andromeda Galaxy is STILL here being actively rude and nasty towards other members, making them get away from the discussion, and they haven't gotten any warnings from it from mods? Wow.

That's very interesting...also not surprised. 

 

yeah, it’s fucking baffling. I’ve agreed with some things they said but overall there seems to be strong intention to police other’s opinions/feelings and a hatred for Venus, even though she clearly isn’t mentally well. Derailing for the sake of argument isn’t cool either.

Venus definitely needs to be held accountable for her actions but the amount of venom I’ve seen being spewed from this user doesn’t sit well with me either.

also @IdylleDoll your previous post is insightful and amazing. As much as I’ve been “angry” with Venus in the past, I don’t think my frustrations truly lied with her. But more so what she’s become as a result of her upbringing. Took me a little while to realize that.

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I think she could fair better getting a part time job in Sweden or Germany better than in Japan, but the cost of living is pretty high in those countries. She needs an actual source of income. Her last " video" was 34 secs, three weeks ago, and only got 100k views. I am aware that being a YTer is a job and one can make a good living off of it. But not when you're doing it like that.

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yeah, it’s fucking baffling. I’ve agreed with some things they said but overall there seems to be strong intention to police other’s opinions/feelings and a hatred for Venus, even though she clearly isn’t mentally well. Derailing for the sake of argument isn’t cool either.

Venus definitely needs to be held accountable for her actions but the amount of venom I’ve seen being spewed from this user doesn’t sit well with me either.

also @IdylleDoll your previous post is insightful and amazing. As much as I’ve been “angry” with Venus in the past, I don’t think my frustrations truly lied with her. But more so what she’s become as a result of her upbringing. Took me a little while to realize that.

 

Aww thank you so much, you are too kind. :meowplz:

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I think she could fair better getting a part time job in Sweden or Germany better than in Japan, but the cost of living is pretty high in those countries. She needs an actual source of income. Her last " video" was 34 secs, three weeks ago, and only got 100k views. I am aware that being a YTer is a job and one can make a good living off of it. But not when you're doing it like that.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Venus has no skills or qualifications and didn't finish high school or  has any sort of home school equivalent of a high school certificate, so her chances of getting a good -non sleazy- job is quite slim. So aside from dealing with her mental health issues she's gotta go and get at least some basic education before she can even get a basic part time job in order to earn enough money to even leave Japan if that's what she decides to do, it's kinda sad. 

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Being “horrified” and “worried for Venus” is a black hole that will suck you dry. This is what Borderlines do, play victim and manipulate everyone’s feelings. She’s been doing this for exactly 4 years now. If you want to get sucked into this vortex go right ahead, spend your energy worrying and being horrified. Your choice. Personally I got off that roller coaster months ago.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

Venus is one thing a pwBPD are something entirely different. WHY is this blatant ableism allowed to run unchecked apparently for months? I'll make it clear that I'm not nor will I defend Venus, but generalizations like this derail (which I'm doing too, but apparently thats okay) and also are so lacking in compassion. Maybe you have your experience but this dehumanization of mentally ill people is fucking disgusting.

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Hopefully she is getting help and not just damage control, she cant just sit and drink forever, she's too young to give up now

If she really doesn't want to get any high school diploma, then hopefully she try to get regular work, when she has enough money, she can do that as a part time, and makes videos like when she lives with Manaki, exploring Japan and random shit, stuff that she actually seems to enjoy y'know

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