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YandereDev/ Evaxephon General Thread


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I saw this on Kiwifarms and thought it was worth reposting here (especially since their thread has been flying.)

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Okay so, I be the only person who just see's something wrong with the drawing, but can't put their finger on it. 

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Okay so, I be the only person who just see's something wrong with the drawing, but can't put their finger on it. 

 

On my phone, the colors are TOO dark. Also, the lynching clearly screams some unfortunate implications. 

We need someone to fix this picture. 

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Okay so, I be the only person who just see's something wrong with the drawing, but can't put their finger on it. 

 

Could it be the lighting? Considering theres a light source behind the tree there still should be a small amount of light hitting yan chan's back and considering there's a light source in front of Yandere chan that light should spill out onto the hill and tree too. 

Overall the picture is too dark and the lighting is weird. 

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Okay so, I be the only person who just see's something wrong with the drawing, but can't put their finger on it. 

 

Horrible composition, palette is way too dark, lighting and shading makes absolutely no sense (which aids in making her left wrist look broken), folds in her clothing are haphazard and illogical, her skirt is supposed to be flipping up with the wind I'm guessing but it just looks shorter on one side and the pleats make no sense, anatomy is atrocious (especially hips, legs and shoulders)....

You can't put your finger on it because there's waaay too many things wrong with it. And yeah the lynching is in pretty poor taste.

I haven't been able to make it through the full thread yet but I just started reading up on this guy for the first time. I actually had seen a couple of the videos about YanSim and thought the game looked mildly interesting and that the tropes/names were kinda funny and tongue-in-cheek, until I learned it's made up of assets stolen by an incel mooch who can't be assed to use the money his supporters have sent to hire a team and actually develop it. Christ what a shit show. 

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At this point I am so gonna support anyone who is planning to make a game like Yansim. I am sick of Yandev and while I like the concept of the game, I will support anyone who makes it an improved version just as in the 'fixing yansim' threat. really looking forward to the projects of people who stated they will make it themselves (one of the programmer dudes on the subreddit started making his own yansim now to prove that yandev does shit and that anyone else can do it and make it even better)

 
 

A little Off-topic: Sorry for any harshness, but, I think I would rather have someone make their own game with the concept instead of like a "Yandere Fix", because that feels similar to how Alex started out with YanSim-- he made it out of spite against another dev and it's what I've been seeing a few of the yandere games on tumblr doing; like Limerence, Love Me, etc?

-- Not bashing those games because they look good, but I would want someone to do a little more with the concept. It don't really have to be limited to Yandere Sim's gameplay way.

Ideas I guess?

-You can make it just a Yandere Life Simulator where you're able to customize your character and your Stalkee, and be placed in a Slice of Life sandbox/world. Heck, even add social to it and a little dating elements if you want, let us just date our love interest. Because Ayano was too extremely shy to do it and I saw some fans wanting that. 

- Or even make it a game about the victim being stalked by the Yandere in a horror game. Because I've never seen anyone make something like that yet and would be something uncomfortable/scary for the player if done right. 

Just try to do something a little different

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A little Off-topic: Sorry for any harshness, but, I think I would rather have someone make their own game with the concept instead of like a "Yandere Fix", because that feels similar to how Alex started out with YanSim-- he made it out of spite against another dev and it's what I've been seeing a few of the yandere games on tumblr doing; like Limerence, Love Me, etc?

-- Not bashing those games because they look good, but I would want someone to do a little more with the concept. It don't really have to be limited to Yandere Sim's gameplay way.

Ideas I guess?

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Now that would be very interesting, maybe you can also customize your character and your crush and all that, I love customization in games <3

PS: YanDev still trying to fix shit he started, oh my god what a sad and stupid guy, just give the game to someone else dude... :alpacabored:

https://yanderedev.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/whats-been-going-on-for-the-past-few-days/

What’s been going on for the past few days?

Posted on June 11, 2018 by YandereDev

When I was younger – in my late teens and early twenties – I did a lot of stupid and embarrassing things. I wrote a lot of whiny posts about feeling lonely, having no self-confidence, and worrying that I’d never have a girlfriend. When I streamed video games, I would often yell at my viewers and throw temper tantrums at games. I was immature, cringey, and embarrassing in just about every way imaginable.

As I entered my mid-twenties, I realized that I wasn’t proud of any of my behavior, and did my best to change myself and turn my life around. I got a job at a video game company, I made friends, I stopped basing my self-worth on my relationship status, and I did my best to drop all of the habits that I was ashamed of. I became a much happier person. In 2013, I realized that I had acquired the skills necessary to independently develop video games, so I left my job to become an indie dev.

Around 2014, I pitched the idea for Yandere Simulator on 4chan’s “/v/”, a message board about video games. Everyone who posted in the thread loved the idea of the game, so I began working on it. For a few months, everything was wonderful – we were having fantastic threads and having a great time planning out every aspect of the game. But eventually, people realized that “YandereDev” was actually that cringey guy from back in 2009 who was always either whining or raging.

Slowly, the focus of the threads stopped being about my current project, and started being about my former self. Instead of discussing game design, game mechanics, and gameplay, the threads became exclusively about ridiculing me for who I was in the past. /v/ no longer wished to support me or my project, even though I had spent months building a game for them. It was incredibly disheartening, especially when I had put so much effort into improving and rebuilding myself.

Around that point in time, Yandere Simulator was discovered by big YouTubers like Jacksepticeye, Markiplier, and PewDiePie. The game got a new audience, and I got a fresh start. I continued developing Yandere Simulator, but the entire time, I was fearful that the past would repeat itself. I was worried that one day, my new audience would learn about all the stupid cringey things I did in my youth, and turn on me just as the 4chan audience had.

There are people in this world whose hobby is shaming and ridiculing other people. Digging for dirt in other peoples’ lives is their favorite past-time. Humiliating their victims is like a recreational activity for them. They’ll go as deep as they possibly can into your personal life and look for absolutely any quote, screenshot, or chat log that can be used against you. They’re not doing it for any noble reason; they just enjoy the cruelty of it.

These people heard about me, and decided that I seemed like the type of person who would provide them with lots of entertainment. They get amusement from shaming and ridiculing people, so they choose to perceive me as a shameful, ridiculous person. They judge me based on things that I said over a decade ago, and use ancient chat logs and out-of-context screenshots to convince themselves that I’m a cartoonish caricature of who I actually am.

I’m a human being with emotions, I’m frequently put into very unpleasant and stressful situations, and sometimes my judgement is clouded by frustration and anger. As a result, there have been times when I was be short-tempered and rude; these moments account for less than 1% of my interactions with other people. These people judge me exclusively on those 1% of regretful moments; it validates what they wantto believe. They’re not interested in truth or reality; just shame and ridicule.

They want to maintain a mental image of me as a pathetic, whiny, cringey loser, because it facilitates their hobby of mocking and humiliating other people. They want to cling to a warped and twisted perception of me, because an exaggerated caricature is much more fun than a boring person with normal flaws. They grasp at straws, make mountains out of molehills, jump to conclusions, believe people without evidence, and convince themselves of things that never happened.

Imagine that there was a time in your life when you weighed 500 pounds, but then you went on a diet and achieved a reasonable weight. Now, you only eat a candy bar once a month. However, some weird people stalk you and take photos of you whenever you eat a candy bar, and try to spread a narrative that you’re a fat pig who is constantly stuffing your face with junk food. That’s the situation that I’m in, except instead of portraying me eating candy, they portray me as my old self from the past.

It wouldn’t be a big deal if some weirdos wanted to gossip about me quietly in their little corner of the Internet…but instead, they sought to colonize as many sites as possible. They created blogs about me on Tumblr, threads about me on Reddit, videos about me on YouTube, etc. They’re committed to spreading Anti-YandereDev propaganda as far as possible, and convincing my fans that I’m a lazy slacker, or a scam artist, or a pedophile, or whatever other fantasies they believe in.

For the past couple of years, I’ve been constantly worried that one day, their propaganda would spill out into the mainstream and begin to change the hearts and minds of my followers. I knew that some of my fans were aware of the propaganda, but I didn’t know how many, or if it was the sort of thing that people actually cared about. I didn’t know if the propaganda was going to spread slowly over time, or if it was going to spread rapidly as the result of some controversial event.

On June 1st, I uploaded a video about the Photography Club. I saw the usual comments – jokes, memes, constructive criticism, etc – but I also observed that a significant number of the comments were insults coming from people who had been brainwashed by Anti-YandereDev propaganda. I realized that this nonsense was starting to poison peoples’ minds, and that I would have to start addressing the issue. I decided that my next video would be about Osana.

When I uploaded the Osana video, the comment section was invaded by the Anti-YandereDev crowd, determined to turn fans into haters by bashing me and describing me as a twisted caricature of who I actually am. There were also lots of people asking about tinyBuild and spreading ridiculous theories about why the partnership had ended. Every other comment was either an insult, ludicrous misinformation, or questions about tinyBuild that I was afraid to answer for legal reasons.

I didn’t want the Yandere Sim fanbase to see all of that nonsense, so I started deleting abusive comments, and removing comments about tinyBuild. When fans noticed that comments were vanishing, they accused me of “censorship” and “not being able to handle criticism” – even though I was only deleting insults and misinformation. I realized that I was in a lose-lose situation; I didn’t want propaganda and misinformation to poison anyone’s mind, so I simply disabled the comments altogether.

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This turned out to be one of the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made. A lot of fans were absolutely pissed about comments being disabled; it was interpreted as an attempt to “silence criticism”, rather than shut down abuse and misinformation. Rather than protecting my audience from propaganda designed to make them doubt me, I unintentionally gave my audience a good reason to doubt me. I’d never been in such a situation before, and I was at a complete loss for what to do.

When YouTube comments were no longer available, the conversation continued on my blog, now with more accusations of censorship. I panicked and closed comments on my blog. This left the fanbase with two choices for where to discuss Yandere Simulator: in the comment sections of videos that are bashing me, or in subreddits/Discord channels operated by people who explicitly dislike me and are delighted to see people talking trash about me.

As a result, a huge portion of my audience has now been exposed to content from people who think I’m a villain, who are trying their best to convert fans into haters. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, it’s probably the worst thing that possibly could have happened. I’ve had a few days to think everything over, but the next course of action still isn’t clear. This is primarily because…there’s no easy way to confirm how many people actually care about any of this.

My most recent video has 68k likes and 8.5k dislikes. If we attempt to use these numbers to determine how the Yandere Simulator fanbase feels right now, then approximately 12.5% of the audience has turned against me, and the remaining 87.5% of the fanbase is still on my side. (We also have to consider the fact that many of the people leaving dislikes on the video were never fans to begin with; those dislikes are just coming from the crowd of people that ridicule others for fun.)

Over the past few days, I’ve received a countless number of supportive and encouraging messages from fans, assuring me that they don’t care about any of this dumb drama and that they’re still on my side. (I’m extremely grateful to everyone who e-mailed me with kind words!) The ratio of fanmail to hatemail has been 95% / 5%. Perhaps this means that all of the hate and ridicule is only coming from a very vocal minority; perhaps only 5% of fans are susceptible to being converted by propaganda.

Of course, if you check subreddits or Discord servers operated by people who strongly dislike me, then you will see a lot of people shredding me to pieces, because the people operating the subreddits/servers love seeing it. However, that wouldn’t be a very accurate way to gauge the overall sentiment of the entire fanbase; it’s obvious that you’d see a lot of hate and ridicule in places that encourage it, operated by people who want to see me torn down.

Some people are immune to drama, gossip, and rumors; it bounces off of them like bullets bounce off Superman. They simply don’t care. There are fans who think it’s absolutely absurd to judge me based on cringey things I did a decade ago. There are fans who would never judge me based on an out-of-context screenshot from a previous phase of my life. There are fans who can be understanding and forgiving with me for losing my temper during times of intense stress. There are fans who don’t have any interest in stupid rumors and character assassination propaganda.

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Let’s say that there are two types of fans: “Type A” and “Type B”. (This time, I’m staying away from biased terminology like “Chill” and Heated”.) Type A would be the crowd that doesn’t care about drama, doesn’t care about gossip, doesn’t care about rumors, doesn’t care about ANY of this, and just wants me to get back to work on the game. They simply want to see me make progress, and aren’t going to give a second thought to any stupid propaganda. Type B would be…the opposite.



“YandereDev streams video games for 3 hours a day!”

Type A: So? There are 24 hours in the day. Even if you play video games for 3 hours, there is still plenty of time to be productive and get lots of work done.

Type B: Wow, what a lazy piece of shit!



“Development is taking a long time!”

Type A: That’s to be expected. Most ambitious indie games made by small teams take around 5 years to be completed.

Type B: Wow, he must be a scam artist who is intentionally dragging development out for as long as possible because he’s trying to milk his Patreon!


The question is: what percentage of the population is Type A, and what percentage is Type B? Is it 95%? 87.5%? 50%? If the people who care about stupid rumors are the majority, then I may actually have to go through the trouble of publicly debunking every stupid accusation that has been leveled at me. But if they are actually just a very tiny minority, then I can simply ignore it all and get back to work on the game. Right now, I’m not actually sure about the best way to determine this.

Instead of focusing on what I don’t know, all I can do is focus on what I do know. First, I know that this entire situation could have been avoided if I had simply been more transparent about tinyBuild much sooner. So, the first lesson to be learned here is that I should do a better job of communicating important facts like this to the fanbase, to avoid situations where rumors and misinformation are flying around.

Second, it has become apparent that if there is not an official place to discuss the game, then people will go to unofficial subreddits and unofficial Discords that might be operated by spiteful people who hate me, where they will be unable to have meaningful or productive discussions. I need to create an official place to discuss the game; an environment where people can talk to one another with civility, respect, and dignity, instead of having drama and trash-talk dominate every thread.

With this blog post, I hope that I’ve clarified the situation for a lot of people – people within the fanbase, and people outside of the fanbase who are wondering what all the controversy is about. My next course of action will probably be to set up an official subreddit for the game, followed by getting back to work on Yandere Simulator. I apologize for everything I’ve done that made this situation turn out as badly as it has.

If you’re still interested in the game after everything that’s happened, then I’d like to thank you for following the development of Yandere Simulator.

Wow... such things boi, also I don't know how to make the spoilers thing so...

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Now that would be very interesting, maybe you can also customize your character and your crush and all that, I love customization in games <3

PS: YanDev still trying to fix shit he started, oh my god what a sad and stupid guy, just give the game to someone else dude... :alpacabored:

https://yanderedev.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/whats-been-going-on-for-the-past-few-days/

Wow... such things boi, also I don't know how to make the spoilers thing so...

 

 

(There's an eye above the reply box, highlight your words and click that and it should put it into spoilers and yeah, I would love to see that one day from someone. )

I pretty much skimmed over things, because it was mostly just him pulling victim cards after victim cards to play on people sympathy.

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Now that would be very interesting, maybe you can also customize your character and your crush and all that, I love customization in games <3

PS: YanDev still trying to fix shit he started, oh my god what a sad and stupid guy, just give the game to someone else dude... :alpacabored:

https://yanderedev.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/whats-been-going-on-for-the-past-few-days/

Wow... such things boi, also I don't know how to make the spoilers thing so...

 

Damn alex, that whole wall of text and all it could be reduced to is "woe is me, woe is me, woe is me". I smell a wine and it's Sauvignon Bitch. Pathetic.

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What really amazes me is that he really doesn’t know when to shut his mouth or keep quiet. He’s way too involved in his fandom and just keeps oversharing every single minuscule detail about the game. Everything he says just seems to dig his grave deeper and deeper, and just when you think he couldn’t fuck this up more he does.

Whereas a normal indie developer might give a text update once every other month or do beta testing with a near-complete product, YanDev’s entire development process has been plagued by bad decisions. Once the game started to become popular, he should have just stopped posting builds so frequently and focused more on improving the game mechanics. Instead, he became greedy and got tunnel vision, enjoying the instant gratification he got from releasing new builds so frequently and seeing popular Youtubers play his game. Now, that business model of frequently updating the game is really coming back to haunt him and is probably one of the biggest reasons that the game has become a failure. Instead of working with a real developer and optimizing the code to make the game better in the long run, he opted for giving his fans instant gratification and securing his monthly Patreon tip jar.

It just amazes me how this guy can fuck all of this up so much, and make the worst decisions one could possibly make when developing a game.

 

It's this kind of shit that's convinced some of his fans tht when it comes to developing a game, there needs to be a constant update on little details with no importance. Take a few posts from the LoveMe tumblr page making snide remarks about how dead the team is bc they haven't announced every little update at the same pace as Alex or how their project has been a bust bc no recent updates. 

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It's great that the team handles it with grace but like seriously fuck off lol

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When I streamed video games, I would often yell at my viewers and throw temper tantrums at games. I was immature, cringey, and embarrassing in just about every way imaginable.

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As for the rest of his blog post, he's just as manipulative as ever.

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Was?

As for the rest of his blog post, he's just as manipulative as ever.

 

I saw an excerpt of this from the rise and fall of yandev vid. So much gold. Who would bash their head on the table with rage for losing only once? Geez.

Also I saw the block of text that was his blogpost yesterday. It's so tl;dr I didn't even read the whole of it. As always, recalling his past mistakes and playing the victim card (+ disabling and deleting comments!) when the evidence has been presented right in front of everyone. We don't really need that kind of drama shit, Alex. It's becoming repetitive.

Just admit the truth. Whining about mistakes and subtly telling people to pity you cause "baww baww I was still youngwould be useless because again, everyone has been looking forward to the game with donations and funds and all, then be met by "when it's ready" after. 4. freaking. years. of "progress" is something unacceptable. Does he understand that? Maybe not?

Really I should think he should just get his shit together and admit that he won't ever finish the game. So people will stop doubting him and say he's an incompetent dev (which he is). Well, I look forward to more //sarcasm// pity posts //sarcasm// from him instead of improving his now ruined beloved game.

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The way he worded his (yet another) "Clearing Up Misunderstandings" post is downright disgusting. It actually started out great, though : he admitted that he acted like a cringefest and said horrible things ("i want a childlike gf who obeys my every command ! too bad real women are all sluts !") but then it all went downhill, and fast. I didn't read all that headache-inducing text wall, but from what I read he is YET AGAIN emotionally manipulating people and throwing the blame on everybody but himself, and guilt-tripping his fanbase with toxic generalisations and outright lies. He YET AGAIN separates his fanbase in two categories : the "horrible dumbass troll bullies who are overreacting to minor things" and the "obedient minion who praises me 24/7 without ever critisizing me who are the totally intelligent ones but that are also dumb because they send me emails". Because that's a perfectly mature way to see the drama that you created, huh?

Basically, to all those who don't want to ready that cringe novel, here is a simple summary :

"I'm sorry I didn't cover my tracks better and all my problematic past was discovered ! You're dumbass bullies though if you judge me for seeing women as objects at 17 ! I mean it was just a cringy phase hahaha ! All teenagers go through a phase where they post about wanting to kill their parents for wanting them to go to college, and where they boast about seeing all women as dolls who shouldn't feel sexual desire for anyone or else they're sluts ! I mean we all do cringy things right my dear tween fanbase ? And me streaming everyday for 3 hours is okay because there's 24 hours in a day and I work for 12 hours the rest of the day with no vacations ! All the comments trying to just spread the truth about me are abuse and misinformation ! To all of you who ignored it and kept obediently praising and defending me despite me insulting all of you, you're good unless you ask me questions ! To all the rest : you're dumb bullies who just use screenshots of what I said and actual footage of me to spread misinformation and propaganda (HAHAHAHAHA that dramatic vocabulary) ! And no, that's not emotional manipulation and a scare tactic used by psychopaths... This time I call you "A" and "B" instead of "chill" and "heated" so stop trying to point out how manipulative and toxic I am."

Oh, and interesting thing : he admits that 95% of his fans were still suportive and docile through all the drama, but he still throws himself a pity party and pretends he's constantly being harassed and bullied (on forums that he could easily ignore like a normal professional would) to gather pity.

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