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Can someone tell me exactly what Greg has done that could put him in jail? I wasn't aware that grooming was illegal since it's hard to prove.I know Kai managed to get an underage girl to sent her nudes (?) so I can see why he would be in legal trouble since that's child pornography. 
So far I only know of Greg having sex with girls over the age of 18 which is legal? The only illegal thing I'm aware of was the whole thing with his land.
 

 

Technically enough and if we take everything Sarah and Shiloh have said:

- Grooming of minors. (USA)

- Flying a minor to a state where sex with them was not considered illegal.

- Character assassination and/or smear campaign with the target of ruining's one reputation through manipulation of images, also can be accrued to slander and/or libel against a person.

- Cyberbullying and/or incitement of such.

- Domestic abuse in the realms of: monetary abuse (leaving your partner without nary a resource of money with which they can escape or have any measure of freedom, withholding money and/or controlling the monetary income to assure the partner does not get enough money to afford freedom), social abuse (restraining someone from seeing parents, friends and/or co-workers and boss), psychological abuse (body shaming, mistreatment and guilt tactics), intimidation and, last but not least, passive or covert abuse (such as deliberate neglect to your partner's well being and health).

- To a minor degree, stalking.

- Cyber and real-life harassment.

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I think what Chris Hansen is actually going for are the photos that Greg and Kai have. I know he and someone else said they could be locked away for a long time and it didn't mean when they got them. There is no expiration date on those types of photos.  

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Couldn't he also get a charge for distribution of cp? Based on the questions Hansen was asking Regina, I get the feeling that that's what he's going after Onision for. Chris seems to be going after the forums, his grooming of Sarah, possibly the discord (where, if the allegations are correct, is just a hotbed of grown men soliciting and doxxing minors which Onision blatantly refused to do anything about).

And even if he tries to blame it all on Kai, which I have a feeling he will, couldn't that easily be overturned considering the years of abuse and manipulation Kai's been through? Kai could easily turn this all on Onion and tell the courts he was manipulated into doing those things by Onision and for Onision. 

Plus, they destroyed a few computers, and that alone is pretty damning. 

Edit: To add, them having sex is the bed with their children right next to them is child abuse no matter how you spin it, and could easily get their children taken away. 

 

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It wouldn’t absolve Kai of anything but if they were to turn on Greg and spill everything, that would really help the case. 
 

thing is, I don’t understand why they haven’t done so yet. Sarah defended them for being a good parent but...unless they truly fear Greg will hurt them and the kids, they would try to get the kids out at the very least. They live in and create a toxic home for those kids, and if Kai has any sense of protection for their children, I feel like they would have tried something. 

 

sometimes I wonder if Kai has been informed that they’re going to be the fall guy in all this. Just hoping that the closer Chris gets, the more paranoid onion will become and the more likely he will mess up and get canned. 

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It wouldn’t absolve Kai of anything but if they were to turn on Greg and spill everything, that would really help the case. 
 

thing is, I don’t understand why they haven’t done so yet. Sarah defended them for being a good parent but...unless they truly fear Greg will hurt them and the kids, they would try to get the kids out at the very least. They live in and create a toxic home for those kids, and if Kai has any sense of protection for their children, I feel like they would have tried something. 

 

sometimes I wonder if Kai has been informed that they’re going to be the fall guy in all this. Just hoping that the closer Chris gets, the more paranoid onion will become and the more likely he will mess up and get canned. 

 

Most real mothers would do anything and everything to protect their children but I think Kai has been under Greg's thumb for so long that, that instinct to protect has been destroyed tbh. I'm not trying to diagnose by any means but seemingly Kai has no freewill of their own and only lives for Greg and has for a long time, with all the manipulation and brainwashing he(onion) has put them through and a who knows what else(imo anyway). They may be a decent parent compared to the onion but since they're still with him they aren't really a parent at all in my eyes. I also gotta assume Kai is crying because they're in such deep shit all for the sake of a man who really doesn't give a shit about them and only uses them for his own selfish and sick reasons and turned them into as big a monster as Greg is himself.

all in all, Kai has options to protect themself and the kids if they really wanted to anyways. Even if they feared Greg pulling something dangerous against them, there's restraining orders, shelters, and other options Kai could utilize to ensure the safety of the kids at the least and I don't think Kai is that ignorant to not know about these things. I just think Kai is in too deep now to be saved and willing or not, they'll take the kids down with them because I'm sure onion would expect it of them. I honestly just hope that when every thing does go down and is settled, that the kids are with good people in a safer environment and don't turn out as fucked up as their parents.

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It wouldn’t absolve Kai of anything but if they were to turn on Greg and spill everything, that would really help the case. 
 

thing is, I don’t understand why they haven’t done so yet. Sarah defended them for being a good parent but...unless they truly fear Greg will hurt them and the kids, they would try to get the kids out at the very least. They live in and create a toxic home for those kids, and if Kai has any sense of protection for their children, I feel like they would have tried something. 

 

sometimes I wonder if Kai has been informed that they’re going to be the fall guy in all this. Just hoping that the closer Chris gets, the more paranoid onion will become and the more likely he will mess up and get canned. 

 

I’m not surprised Sarah defended them as parents. All the girls he really had a hold on except Shiloh still defend them to SOME degree, I think Shiloh is different because she’s older now and it’s been awhile since it happened. 

Compare that to the girls who almost went out there and didn’t, they see things a lot more clearly because the abuse wasn’t as direct, severe, or lasting (not undermining their situations, just explaining how the girls who WENT there will take a lot longer to see everything 100% for what it is). 

 

I don’t care how good of a parent you may seem, there is nothing healthy about bringing multiple strange girls in that house, and then leaving. That’s not even going into age of those girls or the sexual acts done in front of the kids. The instability alone is enough for them to be bad parents. (Not saying you’re defending them as parents, I just mean in general). 

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I’m not surprised Sarah defended them as parents. All the girls he really had a hold on except Shiloh still defend them to SOME degree, I think Shiloh is different because she’s older now and it’s been awhile since it happened. 

Compare that to the girls who almost went out there and didn’t, they see things a lot more clearly because the abuse wasn’t as direct, severe, or lasting (not undermining their situations, just explaining how the girls who WENT there will take a lot longer to see everything 100% for what it is). 

 

I don’t care how good of a parent you may seem, there is nothing healthy about bringing multiple strange girls in that house, and then leaving. That’s not even going into age of those girls or the sexual acts done in front of the kids. The instability alone is enough for them to be bad parents. (Not saying you’re defending them as parents, I just mean in general). 

 

you’re probably right! It does seem that the women most far removed from onion (Shiloh and Skye) are the harshest and least likely to defend them. I was definitely not saying either are good parents, I was kind of doubting/questioning why someone would defend either of them, considering what was done. I’d like onion and onion spouse to both rot in jail, nothing less

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i'm honestly surprised with how fast everything is moving right now

people have been reporting onision's behavior for YEARS but somehow he always got away with it. a new controversy came along, people would call him out and then after seeing no response from the authorities people moved on, and that cycle kept repeating itself again and again for the past few years. it seemed like there was no way to get him.

but after Sarah decided to speak up and later Shiloh it seems like it all finally snowballed pretty big and now FINALLY there's no way he can avoid the consequences of his actions

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i'm honestly surprised with how fast everything is moving right now

people have been reporting onision's behavior for YEARS but somehow he always got away with it. a new controversy came along, people would call him out and then after seeing no response from the authorities people moved on, and that cycle kept repeating itself again and again for the past few years. it seemed like there was no way to get him.

but after Sarah decided to speak up and later Shiloh it seems like it all finally snowballed pretty big and now FINALLY there's no way he can avoid the consequences of his actions

 

It’s the power of speaking up in numbers.

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Tbh who defends onision at this point? Like I know invadernoodles still watches him,but who else is this trash or Blind as to keep defending him at this point? 

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Does Kai have his own thread already? Hansen does have the most receipts for him, as someone above said. I would never want Kai to go down in Onision’s stead since he’s the groomed-turned-groomer but both going down is fine. No child predator left behind 

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It sounds like Kai will get the worst punishment, since he was the one with the minor picture exchange. 

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Does Kai have his own thread already? Hansen does have the most receipts for him, as someone above said. I would never want Kai to go down in Onision’s stead since he’s the groomed-turned-groomer but both going down is fine. No child predator left behind 

 

It sounds like Kai will get the worst punishment, since he was the one with the minor picture exchange. 

 

Nah Greg will 100% go down because there is also evidence he orchestrated the whole thing along with the stuff Kai wasn't around for.  Both will end up going down or Kai will get a plea deal and throw greg under the bus even more. 

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Nah Greg will 100% go down because there is also evidence he orchestrated the whole thing along with the stuff Kai wasn't around for.  Both will end up going down or Kai will get a plea deal and throw greg under the bus even more. 

 

I love your faith in the US legal system 

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