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General Venus Angelic Thread #4


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Therapist don't give their opinion, they stay neutral. If her therapist approved selling nudes then:
1)her therapist is a shitty one
2)it's an imaginary one, or
3)they never talked about sex work, they talked about satisfaction, fulfillment or something like that

I might be reading too much into this but now that the topic of pedophilia has come out when she posted the picture with the abused kid someone here said that she looked like a predator or something like that, then the next day she deleted the picture and the "my boyfriend is a pedo" thing started, that felt weird, also the way she said that the other woman "gave head" to the baby sounds very nonchalantly.

I fucking swear to every single god that last year she was following an account of a girl doing gravure/porn dressed as a child, I can't find that account, it was a private Instagram and a Twitter account with the same username but only the latter had the website where she was selling the porn

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I don't think her therapist apporved of this at all, probably does not even know about it.
Venus is throwing in the sentence with her therapist in a way that might make you think that he or she approved of her nude photos, but what she actually said was only that she talked with her therapist about people being happy when they can grow and feel happy and safe and that why you do something is more important than what you do. It's a genereal statement and I am sure her therapist agreed to that. She/he did not say "Go and make nudes if that makes you happy!"

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I don't think her therapist apporved of this at all, probably does not even know about it.
Venus is throwing in the sentence with her therapist in a way that might make you think that he or she approved of her nude photos, but what she actually said was only that she talked with her therapist about people being happy when they can grow and feel happy and safe and that why you do something is more important than what you do. It's a genereal statement and I am sure her therapist agreed to that. She/he did not say "Go and make nudes if that makes you happy!"

 

The thing also about therapy in Japan, is that unlike the west where regular feminism/actual female empowerment has morphed into this watered down, instagram version of feminism (where being a mentally ill woman so desperate for money you show your naked body online and glean all your self worth from men's approval of you is considered "queen behaviour") - there isn't any of this belief in Japan.

Any therapist in Japan would consider her belief that she could overcome her deep seated issues by whoring herself outline EXTREMELY worrying and I'd go as far as to say they'd probably discourage it (as, obviously, it doesn't lead to any real growth or fulfillment no matter how much Venus keeps trying to convince herself). At the most, they'd view her new "career path" for what it is; a desperate attempt for money and attention. The "female empowerment" aspect of this narrative does not translate in Japan, because sex work is still seen as a last resort and carries a heavy stigma.

She's full of crap. I wouldn't be surprised if she's never been to a therapist in her life.
Literally everything she says is a lie to try and justify her choices.

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1. Does anyone else detect a hint of like, "Guys, *I* could never settle for a NORMAL, bORING job, like all the rest of you, because I actually *need* creative self expression and growth!" as if like, everyone else working normal jobs don't have dreams and want to grow and be creative and stuff? Hello???? We just deal with it? It's called working hard during the week and having a hobby in your free time. Because bills need to be paid and we'd rather have a "boring" but at least respectable, stable, non-self-worth-destroying job to support ourselves? Like I don't get the entitlement here.
2. Can someone please explain to me why sitting your bedroom, putting on some makeup, attaching a dog collar around your throat and straining yourself to look as sexy as possible is in any way genuinely "creative or fulfilling"? Can someone make this make sense? It's taking nudes for pervs and uploading them, it's not that deep. Why is she trying to make this sound like it's some kind of deep spiritual source of happiness for her? When she's CLEARLY miserable by the way.


 

 

To respond to #2, some people actually do find swork really fulfilling, therapeutic, etc.; unfortunately for Venus it seems like this is another “get rich quick” episode that will irreparably damage her reputation forever whereas her other money-making ventures (fan club, YouTube) were much less so. 

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If we look at her entire presence online, she always has been sexualising herself since a very young age, with the approval of not only the internet but her mother. Even her first youtube videos, her audience has always been full of creepy old men giving her their approval, while everyone else mocked her. She said so herself: "people tipping subbing means that I offer value, it means that I make people happy." She needs validation and this is the only way she is sure she gets it.

When you objectify yourself you don't have to deal with your feelings bc you don't regard yourself as an autonomous person, that way she doesn't have to deal with her life and problems, and Venus has a lot of problems to deal with.

To me it seems she's doing this porn thing during a high, eventually her high will pass and I'm afraid how she will deal with this. She's not thinking about the consequences bc she's mentally ill and can't see them, she never recovered before and what she needed was a good support system but she had no one, has no one actually.

I don't think it has much to do with money, she had many options to choose from, this one is the one she knew had people who would immediately validate her (her pervert fans). She didn't even need to post a topless picture so fast..she could get more money by waiting..I don't want to see where this is going

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The comment about no creativity in "dead end jobs" came across badly, and basically insults all her fans who are making an honest living. However as a previous poster mentioned Venus has not known anything else. She's been working since her early teens but in a bizarre job that involves turning attention into money. She can't survive in a normal job because she gets no attention or people engaging with her just for who she is.

Her original setup as kawaii Youtuber was the easiest and most wholesome route that she abandoned. Maybe it reminds her too much of the abuse from Margo or her illegal surgery phase so she doesn't want to go back to, which is fair enough. However there are very limited business models for influencers who can't keep up with a Youtube production schedule. She tried everything from livestreaming, half-hearted management gigs, cameos, and of course selling nudes is the very last resort. It's very sad and there's no way she would be doing this if she had a stable income elsewhere.

The whole Venus story is just sad. Of course, she doesn't make it easier by goading her fans and flip-flopping on promises but it's a young woman who was abused by a narc parent and then set adrift in the world without any real friends or family. It's like a case study on girls who end up in the adult industry. Though knowing her, she probably can't keep up with the OF schedule so the project will (for her sake) hopefully fizzle out after a few months.

 

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Therapist don't give their opinion, they stay neutral. If her therapist approved selling nudes then:
1)her therapist is a shitty one
2)it's an imaginary one, or
3)they never talked about sex work, they talked about satisfaction, fulfillment or something like that

 

 

Or her therapist is one of those mental health apps like Wysa.
 

So if her therapist app asks her: "What can you do to improve your situation?"
Venus be like: "SELLING NUDES ON THE INTERNET, YAY!"

The app's like: "You said SELLING NUDES ON THE INTERNET, YAY is a good idea. Why not try it?

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Yeah, she's probably talking to one of these fake therapists online. It's been proven that these apps don't actually hire real professionals. A real Japanese therapist would NEVER approve on something like that, and even a western real therapist would advise her not to, knowing her condition.

Either that therapist doesn't exist or she's consulting from a scammer. 

 

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Boobs out, okay. But was it necessary to include the creampie thing as well this early? Damn, one thing at a time!

 

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Boobs out, okay. But was it necessary to include the creampie thing as well this early? Damn, one thing at a time!

 

 

Considering she said she was gay at one time makes it even funnier. She is really trying to appeal to the male audience, not female, even though she identifies as bi, and used to identify as "gay". She knows what she's doing and doesn't mind at all ditching her young female audience.

 

What also kind of disturbs me is that a minor is constantly defending her on her insta posts.. A minor! Talking about how great sex work is etc. gg venus! Great influence.

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She has a platform and a huge following and lives in Japan.  She could have easily made videos about trying Japanese candy or Japan exclusive food.  Literally one or two videos a week and could still be making way more money than what I make working full time at my "dead end job."  Hell, being a Youtuber is exactly what she should stick to doing since she loves jobs that allow herself to be "creative" 9_9
I've been avoiding saying anything about Venus because I know her mom messed her up and her mental age is probably a lot younger than her actual age but I can't use that as an excuse to defend her all the time.  She had friends who tried to help her,  she has fans who still stick around and try to help her but she just doesn't listen.  In the end of the day, she's the one who's making all these bad choices.  Being a Youtuber is a pretty easy job, let's not lie.  But what's easier than being a Youtuber? someone who takes nude selfies and selling it on Onlyfans.  I can't express how disappointed I am by her bad choices.  

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Well for sure now she is a lost case ...

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Why these patreon hoes always end up talking about art and creativity as if the shit they do is art? Jesus fuck, and these people talking about female emancipation THROUGH PLEASING MEN AND SELLING YOUR BODY. You've gotta be kidding. 

 

I know right! And these people defending Venus’ decision to post that pic act like she’s on a successful path to entrepreneurship. Umh, no. She just dug herself into a deeper pit. So much for her improving herself. She’s deluded herself into thinking she’s become a better person, but really she’s not. She’s going to regret this.

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What happened to her friend/gf Ella Freya? They no longer hang? 

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I know right! And these people defending Venus’ decision to post that pic act like she’s on a successful path to entrepreneurship. Umh, no. She just dug herself into a deeper pit. So much for her improving herself. She’s deluded herself into thinking she’s become a better person, but really she’s not. She’s going to regret this.

 

exact right . I am re commenting on what I wrote on thread 3# taking as an example a comment that one wrote on one of Venus posts :

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as I wrote , we forget how “prostitution” started and why. 
Yes , she can do and promote her body in any way she wants. She is an adult so no one can tell her no. It’s her body . BUT LETS BE REAL! 

 

Furthermore, I add that she is long away from Margaret Palermo and she has been with people who really care to put her on the right track and help her but she said NO to them which makes me conclude : she DOESNT WANT HERSELF to get help. She wants to be the victim to play that role and gain attention. She needs it.  

Selling your body and people from only fans or whoever they are calling it feminism , woman empowering and comment in a positive manner is the least wrong. Excuse me , why should I agree to this ? Why shouldnt NOT  agree with promoting prostitution and why should I accept the fact that they say “prostitution and selling ur body should not be judged ? “ why? Not to offend people who do that work? It’s not about taboo it’s about how the system works there ! Why should I be ashamed of NOT supporting a person who sells their body for money and encourages pedophiles and child prostitution ? 

Encouraging a person ; Venus  who promotes teen prostitution ? Child prostitution ?  THAT IS the image she is promoting and no one can say she is going for another kind of theme, while people clapping at her as she is a great leader and someone who has done something great?
As a result : She knows it and she knows that a lot of young viewers look up to her and have her as an idol . It makes me wonder:  In what country do we live in? 
Especially in Japan we all know teens sell their body easily for money because that’s a bad side of their culture there . It is known . 
people should now encourage her and younger teens to do that kind of thing. Have some self respect Venus !

Today I googled out of curiosity to see what will appear since Venus now sell nudes “Venus angelic nudes” and in the pictures the first pics that appeared were her mother’s nudes and probably pics from a possibly porn video of hers and then venuses nudes.  Like mother like daughter.  Venus says she doesn’t want to be the same person like her mother but does the exact same things.  

At the end of the day I realise : she is a lost cause and I have no pity whatsoever for a person like her anymore . She disgusts me .

 
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