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DissociaDID / Dissociative Identity Disorder youtubers


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I'm not doubting it's confirmed; but just how she states in her timeline; that she had her first appointment with Remy and then got diagnosed right then; like she "left with the papers" i believe is how she phrases it; which to be fair could be paraphrasing but I don't think it is. Therapists have no ability to diagnose someone in the UK you have to be diagnosed by a psychiatrist, which she was, by Remy, after on session/day of meeting with her

 

Therapists can validate a diagnosis but they cannot give you the diagnosis, I’m pretty sure that’s how it is in the US too. 

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I was just watching a video of a psychologist dissecting mental illness in movies and DID came up, he emphasised that it’s impossible for alters to be able to communicate with eachother that clearly (it was about SPLIT) And I looked up and found alot of psychologists/psychiatrists who state similar things.

So how are her alters having a whole relationship?

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I don't think she's faking her struggles with mental illness and I don't think she's lying about her being diagnosed with DID, but I admit some shit don't add up sis. she also comes off as self righteous and as if her mental disorder makes her more educated than people diagnosed with other disorders. I'm not saying she thinks this way for a fact, but that's how it comes across.

Also side note, I don't think she has any ill intentions behind this message on her merch, but as someone who struggles with paranoia issues I would feel some type of way if I saw someone walkin around with this type of shirt.

https://teespring.com/stores/DissociaDID

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I don't think she's faking her struggles with mental illness and I don't think she's lying about her being diagnosed with DID, but I admit some shit don't add up sis. she also comes off as self righteous and as if her mental disorder makes her more educated than people diagnosed with other disorders. I'm not saying she thinks this way for a fact, but that's how it comes across.

Also side note, I don't think she has any ill intentions behind this message on her merch, but as someone who struggles with paranoia issues I would feel some type of way if I saw someone walkin around with this type of shirt.

https://teespring.com/stores/DissociaDID

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I feel like all her merch is really; uhhh profiting off her mental illness and romanticising it in the most blatant way?? like it's one thing to make merch of yourself  for fans if you're a popular youtube (maybe something with her logo/name) or merch for mental illness awareness (with a charity donation) but her artwork with nothing but recycled phrases doesn't seem like it

One of her Merch 'prints' is DARK; isn't that an alter of hers?? specifially one of the first alters that deals with trauma? (if i remember correctly) like to me that would be like making opera gloves with self harm scars on them if you used to self harm and were on youtube; alot of her merch doesn't mean harm but putting it with all the other issues she's been dealing with/accused of it doesn't look the best

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omg youtubers that do this shit bother me to NO end. i don't like to scream FAKE at everyone either, but if you keep acting like a horribly debilitating mental illness is a fun and amazing thing to have then try to make a quick buck...lol that's...very suspicious to say the least.

though honestly as someone diagnosed with DID myself i have to say that any youtubers/tiktok people/tumblr/anyone constantly 'showing off' they have DID sometimes along with some merchandise they insist you buy, offering no real insight, probably isn't as legit as they want others to believe. there is a massive difference between trying to educate people and attempting to profit and gain notoriety. some of my biggest personal issues with DID youtubers is they make switching seem like some dramatic ghost possession when more than half the time it's not. they make it seem like: *GASP with dramatic over the top blinking* "haha i'm soandso now!" acting like there aren't any physical symptoms you go through aside from amnesia. (though not every switch is accompanied by amnesia but it does happen frequently, but that is a long topic so i will cut it short) also they neglect to mention that most of DID is an internal struggle and not, "look how many outward symptoms i'm displaying! haha fun day with the bros!" another thing that bothers me is that these people act like even having decent communication, know how whatever alter is and what they are like, doesn't take literal years and A LOT of therapy. it CAN be easy at times but not like how these youtubers would want you to believe. communication and coming together to be even half a percent functional has taken soooo much time, honestly i would say that i'm not even as functional as i should be, and i do manage to keep it together the best i can, but communication is still a MASSIVE chore.

spoiler for more in depth bitching if that's what you want to read LOL


also a lot of these same people spread constant misinformation to simplify for others. it's not, "there are so many different people and sometimes ANIME people living in my head xD" it's more like, "i went through something incredibly traumatic when i was younger, and my mind felt that the only way to cope was to fall apart to avoid getting hurt any further" (which is also an over simplification but it's better than the former bullshit that makes people come up with even more misinformation) the subject of alters is tricky because at the core of it all, they truly aren't their own person. which i know so many people would scream at me for saying, but it's true. they can be as different from each other as night and day but at at the end of it, it's still the same traumatized person. aside from ethnicity, which if someone who is x race claims without a doubt that they have a completely different race alter, then they are lying, probably about having DID as well. since again, at the core of DID, all these parts are the same person so they are all the same race as the body. though i guess people can think x alter appears to be a certain race but that doesn't make them said race. (any 'introjects or fiction based alters are a huge other topic entirely, but now all of china knows i never stop talking) i could ramble on about it but back to my main point, i think all youtubers that do the "meet my alters!" or "switching caught on camera" are hiiighly suspect because idk about other people, but i think i speak for a lot of people with DID or ANY dissociative disorders in general when i say: i wouldn't want anyone to ever see me an incredibly dissociated shell of a person, especially on camera. if someone did see, i probably wouldn't feel any one way about it at the time, but later i would probably cry violently because it's not some fun party trick. it's mental illness. it's an incredibly vulnerable moment on top of that. i can't think of why anyone would want the cameras rolling for such a private moment?

also just wanted to say that 22 alters is not so many it's unmanageable. alters don't come out all at once or even take turns. there are times where it feels like they are gone. another thing is most people think the end goal is becoming one, but everyone's end game is different! any psych worth the time won't pressure you into integrating immediately after diagnosing either.

just wanted to add: of course i'm not saying there is no display of outward symptoms at all, there definitely is, but it's not glamorous, melodramatic, or as easy to deal with as these youtubers want others to believe. i don't know what would compel someone to have such a 'it's all fun and games' attitude to their own mental illness let alone, traumas, then post it online for views, but people will do a lot to get money and pseudo fame i guess.  i just wish they'd leave everyone who doesn't want to be associated with that kind of thing, out of it, and stop spreading what they think is true as facts.

 

i apologize for such a tldr but these type of people are beyond annoying and deserve to get called on it. they make newly diagnosed people feel like frauds with their unrealistic flaunting and make light of trauma and mental illness in general. (i tried to sort out my thoughts on the matter as much as possible, but i will have to come edit this later since it's almost 5AM omg)

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I think something a lot of people I haven't seen talk about is the fact that even if she is being completely true but slightly over exaggerating (meaning these alters and their relationships do exist)... she's only been diagnosed for 4(?) years and seems to depend on therapy from Better Help (working on kiwifarms evidence here). Assuming she even got a good amount of therapy from a physically available qualified professional, how can she appear to be functioning so well? She's able to make videos constantly, there seems to be very little internal or external struggle between these alters (something Pinata/Nan did show a lot of on their channel) and she glamorises it all. I find it hard to believe that with such a complex disorder and such a complex 'system' that you can seemingly be so organised. 

I'm sure a fair amount of us have struggled with mental health before and could probably relate to some basic symptoms but we also probably know that there was one time or another, or there are times where functioning 'normally' is very hard. To think that during those times I would be making or editing videos is just... not realistic?

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Anyone know what group chat they* are referring to?

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That's really interesting, thank you for your input.

Before all of this, I always had the assumption that alters were still all the "main" person and that differences were from amnesia barriers and different life experiences. Then I see people who talk about different gender, nationality, being left vs right handed etc. Was the prior assumption I have more correct, or is it really a thing to have an alter that's a 15 year old boy from a different country? 

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That's really interesting, thank you for your input.

Before all of this, I always had the assumption that alters were still all the "main" person and that differences were from amnesia barriers and different life experiences. Then I see people who talk about different gender, nationality, being left vs right handed etc. Was the prior assumption I have more correct, or is it really a thing to have an alter that's a 15 year old boy from a different country? 

 

thank you, i really hope it helped!

i think your first assumption is more correct but there is alters that are of different ages, gender, and being right or left handed. now i've heard of other people saying that certain alters need glasses while they don't, but i'm not really sure how i feel about this claim. it's like saying one alter has OCD while no other alter experiences it, and it doesn't make much sense to me?

it's more than possible to have an alter that's a 15 year old boy but from a different country? not at all, nationality and ethnicity wise, it's a lot different since those experiences influence you day to day and you have to live them (which is true whether you have DID or not lol) so someone from america claiming to have a french alter even though they have never even graced a french airport is honestly lying. (that or is so delusional they have convinced themself of this..) though i've noticed that a lot of people claiming to have x nationality/race alter that doesn't line up with their own, almost ALWAYS is a walking stereotype. again, i really dislike having to suggest someone is faking, but anyone vehemently claiming that one alter is whatever nationality and or ethnicity they personally aren't, just reeks of malingering.

also LOL at the constant need to use the performative "we" and "our" because everyone knows you only have ~*real*~ DID if you use "we" and "our" obsessively /s

 

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Hi. 

I have tid and having it it's nothing like what this girl makes you think. Please don't trust her and get informed by real and trustworthy sources or people that really have this disorder. Desinformation hurts for people who have it.

There's something i wrote for you. I hope it helps you to understand a little bit.

"Alters can't be forced into the body like she does in her popular videos, alters only enter the body when it's necessary and the person needs it. A mentally strong alter will enter the body when the person is going through a sad situation. A caregiver alter will enter the body to brush teeth, drink water, or eat well. An emotional and weak alter will only come out when you feel extremely comfortable, such as in a session with your psychologist or talking to your best friend. Alters help survive. They are not a show for morbid people or a logo for a shirt."

Please feel free to ask me and i will try to reply the best i can. 

 

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This is my first time on this particular forum, but I thought I would contribute to it as I have been having similar concerns about the sensationalism of Dissociadid's content, it is possible she has DID but it does take awhile to diagnose. I'll use my own story as an example, when I first started therapy in 2005 to go over childhood trauma it took roughly two to three years before I got a solid diagnosis. One session will not give the therapist or mental health care professional enough of an idea of what they're working with. 

When I first went to therapy they thought I had DID as well, but after further study they said I didn't meet the criteria for it, they finally diagnosed me with PTSD and BPD. I went into various types of therapy and the BPD symptoms have abated. Now I just struggle with anxiety and PTSD.  Mental health symptoms can change as you progress and/or regress, so can a diagnosis. At least this has been my personal experience with it, I also use the tools I've been given when I struggle with emotions and they have been tremendous in keeping me balanced. But you have to put a lot of hard work and effort into getting better. 

My concern is that she didn't spend enough time with this specialist to really gain full understanding, her switching seems forced, and I'm really concerned what this may be doing to her mental wellbeing. Getting views on YouTube simply isn't worth putting yourself through that. 

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