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Kenna's personality and autism

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Making a new thread so that we don't flood her main thread with discussions about autism. I hope I can do this? 

The video that started it all

 

Kenna has revealed to us on her birthday that she has been diagnosed with Aspergers which is a neurodevelopmental condition(now refered to as autism without language apparition delay or intellectual deficiency)

While many people were supportive of her, it wasn't long until she starting using her diagnosis to defend her past scandals and even as a way to invalidate criticism from her "antis"

She also seems to have changed her speech pattern and behavior on cam due to her stopping "masking" as you can see by comparing her most recent videos to this one for example

Since she has been diagnosed she has brought up her autism many times in her stories and makes it part of her identity (in video captions, comments, stories and memes) - see below

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Her diagnosis is controversial to many people since she has only seen 1 psychologist for a 3 hour sitting, while many autistic people have to go through a 1 year waiting list to be seen by a full team of specialists in an expert center, take many written tests (including an IQ test sometimes), and bring in a family member to answer questions about your childhood.

 

As opposed to the main thread, feel free to share your own ASD experience here.

 

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copypastaing here the thing

I believe and I'm almost sure Kenna has narcissism disorder.
(There's nothing wrong with having it, but it has a pretty bad general view, and it's obvious why.)
Symptoms include,
-A sense of entitlement, a need for constant admiration.
-Expecting to be recognized as superior, even without any work.
-Monopolize conversations and belittle people during discussions.

-Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted.
-Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others.

why I believe Kenna doesn't have autism:

-Aspies "see" the world differently, and she doesn't seem to have that problem
-Eye contact,,,she seemed comfortable with cameras in all her videos and made normal contact with her friends and family
-No impairing of communication and everyday interaction ("I had no problem ordering it in Japanese!" "...hotto no kokoa")
-Understands sarcasm (cue her blunt humor)
-Ability to understand abstract concepts, which she includes in her poetry. 
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User Nakimae stated it's more metaphors rather than concepts, but Kenna still uses said tools in poetry

She does check out some symptoms, but I believe those are purely because she's spoilt and are heavily linked to narcissism disorder.

Why it might be a misdiagnosis? I'm no expert in the area, but a friend of mine is an Aspie and I ended up reading stuff so he feels comfortable around me. Kenna appears to be repeating the superficial behavior as a label and make it believable. One big difference that sets Asperger's and ND apart is the fact that first seem to lack empathy but mean no harm, while ND do know the consequences of their actions, but do not care. I believe this also explains the whole art stealing incident. She doesn't feel any remorse, and that's why an apology was hard to issue, reason why she repeated the email. 

Now, the email issue also drags another ASD symptom: echolalia (meaningless repetition of another person's spoken words), but branching it out and connecting it to her other behaviors mark it out. She can't use it as an excuse, and if she does, she read the thread. Her blatant copying is derived from her laziness and lack of remorse. The apology only served to get back her subs. It wasn't genuine at all. I also believe it's not echolalia for this reason: When my friend copies my words, he also copies my gestures and emotions. Kenna's apology, if derived from the phenomena, would have been rather robotic and detached. I don't know how to explain it. 

ND people are skilled in manipulation. How do I know? I've been manipulated many times by an ex-friend.

Kenna's apology was pure manipulation, and her possible portrayal of Asperger makes her a walking stereotype with the intent of being believable so she gets a pass for everything she's done and does.

disclaimer; this is pure speculation, I'm not an expert on the matter.

(People with ASD or those who know about it, what do you think?)

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correction (thanks Naki!)
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-Aspies "see" the world differently, and she doesn't seem to have that problem
-Eye contact,,,she seemed comfortable with cameras in all her videos and made normal contact with her friends and family
-No impairing of communication and everyday interaction ("I had no problem ordering it in Japanese!" "...hotto no kokoa")
-Understands sarcasm (cue her blunt humor)
-Ability to understand abstract concepts, which she includes in her poetry.

She does check out some symptoms, but I believe those are purely because she's spoilt and are heavily linked to narcissism disorder.

Why it might be a misdiagnosis? I'm no expert in the area, but a friend of mine is an Aspie and I ended up reading stuff so he feels comfortable around me. Kenna appears to be repeating the superficial behavior as a label and make it believable. One big difference that sets Asperger's and ND apart is the fact that first seem to lack empathy but mean no harm, while ND do know the consequences of their actions, but do not care. I believe this also explains the whole art stealing incident. She doesn't feel any remorse, and that's why an apology was hard to issue, reason why she repeated the email. 

Now, the email issue also drags another ASD symptom: echolalia (meaningless repetition of another person's spoken words), but branching it out and connecting it to her other behaviors mark it out. She can't use it as an excuse, and if she does, she read the thread. Her blatant copying is derived from her laziness and lack of remorse. The apology only served to get back her subs. It wasn't genuine at all. I also believe it's not echolalia for this reason: When my friend copies my words, he also copies my gestures and emotions. Kenna's apology, if derived from the phenomena, would have been rather robotic and detached. I don't know how to explain it. 

Hey, I am autistic so I think i can confidently answer you

- Aspies see the world differently : often related to hyper sensitive sight and senses in general + taking everything litteraly and we're not in her head so we can't know for sure

- autistic people are able to communicate and order, it just takes them a lot of concentration and is very tiring so same here, we can't really know

- I agree 100% with you about sarcasm, I have never seen an autistic person SO sarcastic, I myself always fall for sarcasm, and never use it

- Autistic people understand abstract concepts just sometimes it's hard to get metaphors

- echolalia doesn't work like this, it's more like repetition of meaningless things that sound good, or repetition of another person's words just after they say it like : -hey how are you today? -hey how are you today? 

- I agree with you on eye contact, she shouldn't be unable to do it with a camera (it's not an eye, although her attention can be focused somewhere else on other stimuli but it hasn't since now for some reason), and she can do it on older videos or unscripted videos

- autistic empathy is expressed in ways that seem self centered or rushing to neurotypicals like "oh i have a migraine" autistic people can answer "i had a migraine once it was terrible" or try to find a direct solution (like giving the other person medication)

 

sorry for sperging (lol always wanted to use this expression now that i have a diagnosis)

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I propose changing the name of the thread to "Kenna's personality and autism". Reasons being:

  • Kenna treats autism as a personality quirk 
  • Kenna's mentality is based around her personality and what boxes she can put herself into, such as Myers & Briggs, autism, Gryffindor, Foxtail, etc

I think it would be great to separate this from the main thread because it's a reoccurring topic all the time with a bunch of repetition and clogs up actual discussion of the main topic in the main thread.

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I propose changing the name of the thread to "Kenna's personality and autism". Reasons being:

  • Kenna treats autism as a personality quirk 
  • Kenna's mentality is based around her personality and what boxes she can put herself into, such as Myers & Briggs, autism, Gryffindor, Foxtail, etc

I think it would be great to separate this from the main thread because it's a reoccurring topic all the time with a bunch of repetition and clogs up actual discussion of the main topic in the main thread.

 

Ok I changed it

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Hey, I am autistic so I think i can confidently answer you

- Aspies see the world differently : often related to hyper sensitive sight and senses in general + taking everything litteraly and we're not in her head so we can't know for sure

- autistic people are able to communicate and order, it just takes them a lot of concentration and is very tiring so same here, we can't really know

- I agree 100% with you about sarcasm, I have never seen an autistic person SO sarcastic, I myself always fall for sarcasm, and never use it

- Autistic people understand abstract concepts just sometimes it's hard to get metaphors

- echolalia doesn't work like this, it's more like repetition of meaningless things that sound good, or repetition of another person's words just after they say it like : -hey how are you today? -hey how are you today? 

- I agree with you on eye contact, she shouldn't be unable to do it with a camera (it's not an eye, although her attention can be focused somewhere else on other stimuli but it hasn't since now for some reason), and she can do it on older videos or unscripted videos

- autistic empathy is expressed in ways that seem self centered or rushing to neurotypicals like "oh i have a migraine" autistic people can answer "i had a migraine once it was terrible" or try to find a direct solution (like giving the other person medication)

 

sorry for sperging (lol always wanted to use this expression now that i have a diagnosis)

 

ooh, it makes sense! I'll correct the other part

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I have very sensitive eyes TO THE LIGHT and I've never heard of somebody with sensitive eyeballs to the air because of autism. That sound to me like she's dehydrated and needs eye drops not a trait of autism, I can't believe no one called her out for that.

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I have very sensitive eyes TO THE LIGHT and I've never heard of somebody with sensitive eyeballs to the air because of autism. That sound to me like she's dehydrated and needs eye drops not a trait of autism, I can't believe no one called her out for that.

 

Cue her water intolerance, girl full of half assed lies,,,too bad all that money she has won't get her better ones

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I'm like 99% sure her diagnosis is real but Kenna is either being the biggest example of the  Dunning–Kruger effect or thinks somehow she can try to blame it for everything instead of self improvement. 

Maybe both who knows. 

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I'm like 99% sure her diagnosis is real but Kenna is either being the biggest example of the  Dunning–Kruger effect or thinks somehow she can try to blame it for everything instead of self improvement. 

Maybe both who knows. 

 

I'm educating myself so much on this. Yeah, I guess she also checks off in there, as the DKE forms part of the narc. dis. symptom list

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Kenna thinks autism is just her golden ticket to being rude, entitled, picky, and aggressive. She can steal artwork, eat only pancakes in foreign countries, attack people on insta 24/7 then play the victim, because of her Autism™. 

Imo: 

#1 there's something wrong with her but it's not autism. Perhaps it's simply her being a rich entitled little woman, perhaps some personality disorder.

#2 Diagnoses are an explanation for your behavior, not an excuse. We might be hardwired to act in a certain way but that doesn't mean we can do whatever the hell we want. If you have a mental/behavioral/developmental/etc. disorder that you're capable of working on you should 100% do that. 

I'd love to hear Kenna's explanation for why she's not going to a therapist or doctor to work on all of her brand new "symptoms" but instead seems to be getting worse and worse every week? An autism "diagnosis" should be a reason for you to work on your problems, not say "Oops I'm neurodivergent! Guess I don't have to look at the camera anymore and can start stuttering despite having no problems with it for years." 

How many people with autism would love to act "normal" like she did for years, but don't have the power to? Autism isn't a switch you flip on and off Kenna. 

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I‘ve mentioned that already in the main thread, but it drives me crazy how everybody automatically has to have a mental disorder! No, Imo Kenna is just a spoiled brat! She is rude, aggressive, egoistic and an annoying know-it-all (pretends to be). There is no mental disorder...no autism or whatever! 

These are just characteristics traits of her. Some like that, some don‘t. That’s it! Not more, not less. 

Also, if she doesn’t want to be degraded to her autism, she should just stop making a fuss out of it! 

Man! Before she was just a good gossip topic to me, now she makes me really angry! 

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Whether she is autistic or not (I believe not) she did not get properly evaluated and the actual diagnosis is not valid.

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or maybe, just maybe, she's a total asshole.

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She’s been living with her “diagnosis” for like a month and she’s all of a sudden an expert on the matter? 

 

(Replying here so as to not bring it back up in the main thread)

Not only that, but you can see where she's focusing her reasearch: On how other people can make efforts for her.

@ChocoBunny brings up a good point also. No matter what we personally think of how autistic she is or isn't, objectively the diagnosis is iffy at best, completely invalid at worst.

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