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online personalities ProJared, AtelierHeidi and HollyConrad cheating


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they could be not fake but to quote an anon on lolcow

Got to love though the fact Jared had this "evidence",which isn't really evidence because dude didn't ID anyone or do anything to make sure they were over 18,but oh so carelessly forgot to show it until now. 

Also dude sent his nudes to any and all fans. Again the dude's fandom was mostly underaged kids. Why do I feel like down the line he's gonna get arrested Like Vadoxx studies/Cystialli and that cover artist who was getting fans to strip for him. 

true, the receipts could definitely be truthful but whether or not they were faked it was still a really bad idea to be sending his nudes to fans, and not just for the obvious reasons. even if he isn't a pedophile and wasn't aiming at the under eighteen crowd, its a bad idea to advertise your nudes to a fanbase you know has a large amounts of minors and then not do any verification other than asking about their age. 

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Someone else took the URL, he deactivated and didn't come back.

 

That's what I was saying. Sorry if it wasn't clear. 

true, the receipts could definitely be truthful but whether or not they were faked it was still a really bad idea to be sending his nudes to fans, and not just for the obvious reasons. even if he isn't a pedophile and wasn't aiming at the under eighteen crowd, its a bad idea to advertise your nudes to a fanbase you know has a large amounts of minors and then not do any verification other than asking about their age. 

 

To quote another anon on lolcow

Am I going insane or did Jared openly admit to jerking off to child pornography in his video? And people are just cool with that? Like regardless of whatever bullshit excuse, he confirmed that he received multiple nude photos of a minor and that’s somehow not where the discussion ends.

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I WAS RIGHT. JARED IS PULLING A VIC! :hurrplz: He's trying to use legal threats again! 

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That's what I was saying. Sorry if it wasn't clear. 

 

To quote another anon on lolcow

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I WAS RIGHT. JARED IS PULLING A VIC! :hurrplz: He's trying to use legal threats again! 

tf? the more i hear about this, the more i am confused as to why people are still defending him. if anything, the video made him look even worse since he didnt really (successfully) deny anything. remember how treesicle pulled their jared videos a bit earlier? someone here said its possible jared was making them do it for legal reasons... looks like there might have been some actual confirmation of that possibly being the case. if true we might see a lot of other jared videos getting taken off the web very soon. 

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tf? the more i hear about this, the more i am confused as to why people are still defending him. if anything, the video made him look even worse since he didnt really (successfully) deny anything. remember how treesicle pulled their jared videos a bit earlier? someone here said its possible jared was making them do it for legal reasons... looks like there might have been some actual confirmation of that possibly being the case. if true we might see a lot of other jared videos getting taken off the web very soon. 

 

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Even reading it I can see it drip manipulative behavior 

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Transcript is here 

https://pastebin.com/igQj4EgY

Even reading it I can see it drip manipulative behavior 

 

 

 

  1. hey it's me and I was lied to and so were
  2. 00:07
  3. you. it's been a tumultuous last few
  4. 00:11
  5. months to say the least
  6. 00:13
  7. and I don't know how else to describe
  8. 00:17
  9. what I watched other than sheer
  10. 00:23
  11. disbelief. for those of you who are
  12. 00:26
  13. unaware a few months ago some
  14. 00:29
  15. individuals circulated serious
  16. 00:32
  17. accusations against me and I want to
  18. 00:35
  19. make it perfectly clear right now they
  20. 00:39
  21. are false and I have proof I have the
  22. 00:43
  23. receipts I know a lot of people have
  24. 00:45
  25. been wondering why I've been silent and
  26. 00:48
  27. why it's taken me three months to say
  28. 00:50
  29. something serious allegations need to be
  30. 00:54
  31. taken seriously I spent this entire time
  32. 00:57
  33. talking to as many people as I could
  34. 01:00
  35. lawyers law experts officials anyone and
  36. 01:05
  37. I wasn't going to do anything until I
  38. 01:08
  39. was certain that it would be safe to
  40. 01:10
  41. talk about thankfully it is so here I am
  42. 01:15
  43. besides I saw how the internet responded
  44. 01:18
  45. three months ago I was demonized and
  46. 01:20
  47. dehumanized people were understandably
  48. 01:23
  49. angry and the few things I did try to post
  50. 01:27
  51. were met with outrage and a few people
  52. 01:31
  53. who tried to speak out on my behalf were
  54. 01:34
  55. threatened into silence and they only
  56. 01:38
  57. stopped out of fear fear of the internet
  58. 01:41
  59. and what I'm hoping for now is that at
  60. 01:45
  61. least a few people are willing to listen
  62. 01:48
  63. I mean you're here so thank you for
  64. 01:53
  65. hearing me out and I've already seen a
  66. 01:55
  67. lot of posts from people telling me to
  68. 01:57
  69. move on or that the tea is cold on sorry
  70. 02:02
  71. that this is no longer entertaining for
  72. 02:05
  73. them but just because they're bored of
  74. 02:08
  75. it doesn't mean that the harassment
  76. 02:10
  77. stopped or that the story is
  78. 02:13
  79. final and over what this all came down
  80. 02:16
  81. to was people saying that I was
  82. 02:17
  83. exchanging nudes with fans on snapchat
  84. 02:20
  85. and tumblr and a lot of people want to
  86. 02:22
  87. know if I did any of that yeah I did and
  88. 02:26
  89. I always made it clear that it was for
  90. 02:28
  91. consenting adults only this came about
  92. 02:32
  93. when numerous people had asked me about
  94. 02:35
  95. it and wanted to know if it was okay to
  96. 02:37
  97. do I said yes
  98. 02:39
  99. that it would be a safe place for people
  100. 02:42
  101. who wish to express themselves in that
  102. 02:45
  103. way and for me to express myself in that
  104. 02:49
  105. way it was an open invitation for those
  106. 02:52
  107. who wanted to do it and that I wouldn't
  108. 02:55
  109. be offended or upset and that nothing
  110. 02:58
  111. would be shared or saved without
  112. 03:00
  113. explicit permission to be clear it was
  114. 03:04
  115. an open invitation to those who wanted
  116. 03:06
  117. to participate the choice was always up
  118. 03:08
  119. to them at no point did I ever go
  120. 03:11
  121. through my followers list and single out
  122. 03:13
  123. individuals or screen names and pursue
  124. 03:16
  125. them I never did that I always left the
  126. 03:20
  127. choice up to them let them choose to
  128. 03:23
  129. engage or not to initiate or have
  130. 03:26
  131. nothing at all I made a conscious effort
  132. 03:30
  133. to treat everyone with this same respect
  134. 03:34
  135. always and I see no shame what goes on
  136. 03:38
  137. between consenting adults it was never
  138. 03:41
  139. meant to be an abuse of power I never
  140. 03:43
  141. offered anyone anything in return like
  142. 03:46
  143. making them a twitch mod or early access
  144. 03:49
  145. to a YouTube video or whatever I also
  146. 03:52
  147. never threatened anyone any kind of
  148. 03:55
  149. punishment if they didn't or anything
  150. 03:57
  151. like that however I want to acknowledge
  152. 04:01
  153. now that there was a power imbalance
  154. 04:09
  155. that comes down to Who I am and what I
  156. 04:14
  157. do even if there was nothing offered and
  158. 04:19
  159. returned there was still incentive for
  160. 04:21
  161. people to do it because I am a youtuber
  162. 04:26
  163. it doesn't matter how neutral the intent
  164. 04:32
  165. was just being in this position causes a
  166. 04:36
  167. power imbalance and a lot of people saw
  168. 04:40
  169. that and were upset at me for that
  170. 04:44
  171. reason and to those of you who feel that
  172. 04:47
  173. way
  174. 04:47
  175. I completely understand how you feel and
  176. 04:52
  177. why you feel that way
  178. 04:55
  179. and I'm sorry I feel that what I was
  180. 05:02
  181. doing was not predatory but it was
  182. 05:07
  183. unhealthy but that isn't the main
  184. 05:11
  185. grievance that everyone has with me it's
  186. 05:12
  187. the other allegations by these two
  188. 05:16
  189. they're both named Charlie which is
  190. 05:18
  191. going to be confusing so for the one
  192. 05:21
  193. from the UK I'm going to use his
  194. 05:22
  195. nickname which is chai their tweets were
  196. 05:25
  197. some serious accusations and I'll go
  198. 05:30
  199. over them but they both basically boil
  200. 05:32
  201. down to the same thing that they were
  202. 05:35
  203. underage that I knew this and that I was
  204. 05:38
  205. okay with it and encouraged them to
  206. 05:41
  207. interact with me I'm going to show you
  208. 05:44
  209. exactly how these accusations are
  210. 05:47
  211. inaccurate or just flat-out lies the key
  212. 05:52
  213. word that they allege is that I did all
  214. 05:54
  215. of this knowingly and intentionally
  216. 05:58
  217. which is false for example if we go to
  218. 06:02
  219. Chai's accusations we can see that ah
  220. 06:09
  221. never mind he deleted his accusations
  222. 06:13
  223. well that's okay because we can still go
  224. 06:15
  225. to Charlie's Twitter and we can see that
  226. 06:22
  227. now wait they deleted theirs too
  228. 06:27
  229. this is the equivalent of firing a gun
  230. 06:29
  231. and then trying to hide it while it's
  232. 06:32
  233. still smoking and for the record they
  234. 06:34
  235. both deleted their tweets
  236. 06:35
  237. shortly after their narratives were
  238. 06:37
  239. questioned
  240. 06:38
  241. you know posted
  242. 06:40
  243. out there just long enough but that's
  244. 06:43
  245. okay like I said I have the receipts the
  246. 06:48
  247. most prominent accusation was the first
  248. 06:50
  249. one from chai I'm gonna make this
  250. 06:52
  251. available for everyone to read but I'm
  252. 06:54
  253. just gonna paraphrase for now what it
  254. 06:57
  255. claims is that he had sent me nudes
  256. 06:59
  257. while telling me he was only 16 and I
  258. 07:02
  259. said that I was okay with that and
  260. 07:04
  261. continued to spur him on it's also
  262. 07:06
  263. important to note that he states that he
  264. 07:10
  265. has no evidence of us ever interacting
  266. 07:14
  267. so all we have to go on is his word and
  268. 07:17
  269. in an instance such as this where he has
  270. 07:20
  271. no evidence my word is just as valid as
  272. 07:24
  273. his and here's the thing with that I
  274. 07:29
  275. don't remember ever talking to this
  276. 07:32
  277. person none of what he claimed sounds
  278. 07:36
  279. familiar to my memory at all the actions
  280. 07:41
  281. he describes doesn't sound like
  282. 07:44
  283. something I would ever do nothing in it
  284. 07:47
  285. sounds right or familiar and through
  286. 07:52
  287. everything that I scoured with any and
  288. 07:54
  289. all possible correspondences that I
  290. 07:57
  291. could have access to I found nothing
  292. 08:00
  293. with chai whatsoever
  294. 08:03
  295. what this leaves us with is his word
  296. 08:06
  297. versus mine which gets us nowhere and as
  298. 08:10
  299. the Internet has shown me people are
  300. 08:12
  301. more likely to believe whoever fires
  302. 08:14
  303. first on Twitter after all why else
  304. 08:17
  305. would he accuse me unless I'm guilty so
  306. 08:20
  307. my word is I don't remember this even
  308. 08:23
  309. happening or even talking to this person
  310. 08:25
  311. and Chai's word is that all of this did
  312. 08:29
  313. happen so rather than making it Chai's
  314. 08:32
  315. word versus mine it should be Chai's
  316. 08:36
  317. word versus Chai's word in his
  318. 08:40
  319. accusation this choice that's the time
  320. 08:41
  321. frame for when all of this supposedly
  322. 08:44
  323. happened early 2016
  324. 08:46
  325. specifically sometime between March and
  326. 08:49
  327. July this is all very important he also
  328. 08:52
  329. makes it clear that this
  330. 08:54
  331. been some time before my personal tumblr
  332. 08:57
  333. account that he supposedly interacted
  334. 08:59
  335. with me on was hacked and deleted and my
  336. 09:02
  337. tumblr was hacked I can confirm that
  338. 09:05
  339. they're even tweets to timestamp when
  340. 09:07
  341. that happened which is mid-may 2016 this
  342. 09:12
  343. puts the timeframe based on his claims
  344. 09:14
  345. sometime between March 2016 and May 2016
  346. 09:21
  347. again this is all very important are you
  348. 09:24
  349. familiar with the website medium.com
  350. 09:26
  351. it's a website in which people can write
  352. 09:29
  353. articles and blog posts for public
  354. 09:32
  355. viewing cha has quite a few of them on
  356. 09:35
  357. there and a couple of them are relevant
  358. 09:38
  359. to this situation especially this one
  360. 09:41
  361. titled I've been disabled for two years
  362. 09:44
  363. I'm not going to read every part of it
  364. 09:47
  365. because not everything in here is
  366. 09:49
  367. pertinent but I'll make a link available
  368. 09:51
  369. so that if you want you can read through
  370. 09:54
  371. all of it the ninth of November 2015 is
  372. 09:57
  373. the most notable date in my life and
  374. 09:59
  375. always will be most people remember
  376. 10:01
  377. their wedding day of our 18th birthday
  378. 10:03
  379. or the day someone close to them died
  380. 10:04
  381. for me I remember the day of my accident
  382. 10:08
  383. we were playing basketball I loved
  384. 10:11
  385. basketball my height was my downfall as
  386. 10:14
  387. it turned out I was running to try and
  388. 10:16
  389. get the ball from someone I ran I ran
  390. 10:18
  391. boom
  392. 10:20
  393. I fell down hard landing on my knees and
  394. 10:23
  395. snapping my head forward so that my
  396. 10:25
  397. forehead smacked against the floor it
  398. 10:28
  399. was almost the end of the lesson so he
  400. 10:29
  401. asked to be excused to the changing room
  402. 10:31
  403. the rest of the class came in and we all
  404. 10:33
  405. started getting changed that's the last
  406. 10:36
  407. thing I properly remember until about 6
  408. 10:39
  409. months later as we were changing I
  410. 10:42
  411. apparently fainted landing hard on the
  412. 10:44
  413. concrete floor and smashing the back of
  414. 10:47
  415. my head off of it I was taken to a
  416. 10:49
  417. hospital admitted to the children's ward
  418. 10:52
  419. given an EEG and MRI a cardiogram I was
  420. 10:55
  421. tentatively told that I had axonal brain
  422. 10:57
  423. damage and after a couple of days sent
  424. 11:00
  425. home q another passing out another
  426. 11:03
  427. hospitalization I passed out again while
  428. 11:05
  429. in the hospital at this point in my
  430. 11:08
  431. I was sleeping for around 16 to 18 hours
  432. 11:10
  433. per day I had to stop going to school
  434. 11:13
  435. and was essentially bed bound along with
  436. 11:16
  437. the pain came voices hallucinations
  438. 11:19
  439. I didn't notice them so much at first or
  440. 11:22
  441. attributed them to being so tired
  442. 11:24
  443. seeing a spider when there was none or a
  444. 11:26
  445. flash of light then things got a bit
  446. 11:29
  447. more intense kill someone stab your mom
  448. 11:33
  449. grab that steak knife and stick it in
  450. 11:35
  451. his back I was terrified of myself all
  452. 11:38
  453. day every day I was plagued with
  454. 11:40
  455. thoughts of violence and aggression they
  456. 11:42
  457. got harder and harder to ignore listing
  458. 11:45
  459. your symptoms over and over gets pretty
  460. 11:47
  461. exhausting fatigue severe head pain
  462. 11:50
  463. spasms of pain extremely bad short-term
  464. 11:53
  465. memory big gaps in long-term memory no
  466. 11:58
  467. concentration occasionally passing out
  468. 12:00
  469. psychosis cut forwards to August 2016
  470. 12:04
  471. the psychosis was getting worse one
  472. 12:07
  473. night I walked downstairs open the
  474. 12:09
  475. living room door and told my mom that
  476. 12:11
  477. she needed to take me to the hospital
  478. 12:13
  479. because if she didn't I'd kill her
  480. 12:16
  481. literally kill her the nights I spent in
  482. 12:19
  483. the hospital for psychosis were the
  484. 12:21
  485. worst nights of my life my miracle came
  486. 12:24
  487. a few days into my hospital stay after
  488. 12:27
  489. about five minutes of terrible awful
  490. 12:28
  491. exhausting pain it stopped I released my
  492. 12:32
  493. whole body something felt different it
  494. 12:34
  495. was silent the voices had gone in his
  496. 12:38
  497. own article chai states that he suffered
  498. 12:41
  499. a traumatic brain injury and has no
  500. 12:44
  501. memory for six months from November 2015
  502. 12:47
  503. up until May 2016 he continued to have
  504. 12:52
  505. hallucinations and psychosis up until
  506. 12:55
  507. August 2016 and if you are not familiar
  508. 12:59
  509. with psychosis psychosis is an abnormal
  510. 13:03
  511. condition of the mind that results in
  512. 13:05
  513. difficulties determining what is real
  514. 13:08
  515. and what is not symptoms may include
  516. 13:10
  517. false beliefs and seeing or hearing
  518. 13:13
  519. things that others do not see are here
  520. 13:16
  521. aka hallucinations to reiterate Chai's
  522. 13:20
  523. accusation was at
  524. 13:21
  525. things I supposedly did happen between
  526. 13:24
  527. March 2016 and May 2016
  528. 13:29
  529. chai also states that he has no memory
  530. 13:32
  531. during this exact same period and
  532. 13:34
  533. hallucinations continuing until August
  534. 13:37
  535. 2016 my word was that I don't remember
  536. 13:42
  537. ever talking to this person recognizing
  538. 13:45
  539. them or finding the behavior that they
  540. 13:47
  541. described is something that I would even
  542. 13:50
  543. do so I asked you to draw your own
  544. 13:53
  545. conclusion here did this actually happen
  546. 13:57
  547. there is a possibility to consider that
  548. 14:00
  549. the hospital stay and the memory loss
  550. 14:03
  551. isn't true that it was made up to garner
  552. 14:09
  553. sympathy and if that's the case how can
  554. 14:12
  555. we trust Choi's story about me and at
  556. 14:16
  557. the hospital stay and memory loss story
  558. 14:18
  559. is true how can we trust
  560. 14:21
  561. Chai's story about me again I ask you
  562. 14:26
  563. did his claims actually happen I'll
  564. 14:31
  565. offer one final piece of conjecture my
  566. 14:35
  567. tumblr was hacked the hacker was seeking
  568. 14:39
  569. to deal as much damage as possible they
  570. 14:42
  571. were posting really grotesque things
  572. 14:46
  573. rapidfire they had full access to my
  574. 14:50
  575. posts to my inbox and to my private
  576. 14:53
  577. messages if they were seeking to deal as
  578. 14:56
  579. much damage as possible they would have
  580. 14:58
  581. gone through my private conversations
  582. 15:00
  583. and leaked damaging things but nothing
  584. 15:04
  585. was leaked again I ask you do you still
  586. 15:09
  587. feel that Chai's claims against me
  588. 15:12
  589. beyond a reasonable doubt actually
  590. 15:17
  591. happened something that's important to
  592. 15:20
  593. note is the way chai and Charlie made
  594. 15:23
  595. their statements they use a logical
  596. 15:25
  597. fallacy known as poisoning the well it's
  598. 15:29
  599. a tactic in which before you are
  600. 15:31
  601. presented with information you're a
  602. 15:33
  603. given
  604. 15:35
  605. texts opinions or other relevant
  606. 15:38
  607. information to negatively affect your
  608. 15:41
  609. opinion about something before you find
  610. 15:44
  611. out what that something is in other
  612. 15:48
  613. words to manipulate you and it worked on
  614. 15:52
  615. everybody
  616. 15:53
  617. Charlie's accusations quickly follow
  618. 15:56
  619. Chai's they had their own story posted
  620. 15:58
  621. to Twitter and it had very similar
  622. 16:00
  623. claims that they were underage that they
  624. 16:04
  625. interacted with me and that I never even
  626. 16:06
  627. asked them for their age Charlie was
  628. 16:09
  629. able to back up their accusations by
  630. 16:11
  631. posting several screenshots of our
  632. 16:13
  633. messages onto Twitter like I just
  634. 16:15
  635. mentioned each screenshot is accompanied
  636. 16:18
  637. with them providing subtext and opinions
  638. 16:20
  639. to poison the well before you even look
  640. 16:24
  641. at it
  642. 16:25
  643. unlike chai I actually do remember
  644. 16:27
  645. talking to Charlie
  646. 16:28
  647. it seemed familiar but what they are
  648. 16:31
  649. saying didn't sound right all of these
  650. 16:36
  651. images and poisoned well tactics that
  652. 16:40
  653. they posted on Twitter are the exact
  654. 16:42
  655. same things that they had emailed out to
  656. 16:44
  657. business associates of mine I'm gonna go
  658. 16:47
  659. more into that and a little bit but
  660. 16:49
  661. basically they email people that I know
  662. 16:51
  663. with these exact same screenshots and
  664. 16:55
  665. said the same things pretty much
  666. 16:57
  667. verbatim as to what they put on Twitter
  668. 17:00
  669. this is relevant because this is one of
  670. 17:03
  671. the screens they put on Twitter and this
  672. 17:05
  673. is the exact same screen included in
  674. 17:07
  675. those emails only Charlie's tumblr name
  676. 17:10
  677. isn't redacted now because they have
  678. 17:12
  679. these it's very clear that Charlie had
  680. 17:15
  681. access to our entire conversation on
  682. 17:18
  683. tumblr and they would have been able to
  684. 17:21
  685. see everything but they still chose to
  686. 17:25
  687. only show carefully selected and
  688. 17:28
  689. carefully cropped images this was done
  690. 17:31
  691. to make me look as bad as possible and
  692. 17:34
  693. to mislead you for example if Charlie
  694. 17:38
  695. would have shown the very start of our
  696. 17:40
  697. messages you would have seen where
  698. 17:42
  699. Charlie lied to clear up the immediate
  700. 17:46
  701. confusion as to why my screenshot has a
  702. 17:49
  703. different profile picture for me in it
  704. 17:51
  705. is because I had updated my profile
  706. 17:53
  707. picture sometime in February or March of
  708. 17:56
  709. this year it's the same profile picture
  710. 17:59
  711. that's over on my twitch page all this
  712. 18:01
  713. means is that Charlie had taken these
  714. 18:03
  715. screen caps some time before I updated
  716. 18:06
  717. my profile picture every single part of
  718. 18:10
  719. Charlie's allegations against me hinges
  720. 18:13
  721. on the belief that I didn't know their
  722. 18:15
  723. age and or didn't ask
  724. 18:17
  725. they even argued that I should have
  726. 18:19
  727. known their age because they used the
  728. 18:22
  729. phrase I am a baby as if this somehow
  730. 18:24
  731. denotes how old they generally are even
  732. 18:28
  733. though it's used in a context of shyness
  734. 18:30
  735. or feeling intimidated and I did ask
  736. 18:34
  737. their age and they lied they also
  738. 18:39
  739. clearly knew then that they were doing
  740. 18:42
  741. something they know they shouldn't and
  742. 18:44
  743. is doing something they know I'm not
  744. 18:46
  745. okay with they had full access to the
  746. 18:50
  747. entire conversation and omitted to all
  748. 18:53
  749. of you that they lied to me deceiving
  750. 18:57
  751. all of you they knew about this from the
  752. 19:01
  753. get-go which is why on Twitter they
  754. 19:03
  755. immediately began to backpedal on their
  756. 19:06
  757. claims changing their tone from claiming
  758. 19:08
  759. I didn't say he knew my age I said he
  760. 19:11
  761. was predatory predatory behavior would
  762. 19:14
  763. be targeting an individual and pursuing
  764. 19:16
  765. after them often repeatedly and as
  766. 19:19
  767. Charlie had access to our whole
  768. 19:21
  769. conversation they saw it was them who
  770. 19:25
  771. continued to initiate conversations with
  772. 19:27
  773. me unprompted numerous times four months
  774. 19:30
  775. along but Charlie chose to omit that and
  776. 19:34
  777. when they spoke with The Daily Beast
  778. 19:36
  779. they lied in the interview about me
  780. 19:38
  781. never asking for their age when I did so
  782. 19:42
  783. this is libel janaab and bauer could
  784. 19:45
  785. have asked for my ID and they could have
  786. 19:47
  787. not lied this isn't about whether or not
  788. 19:51
  789. they remembered if I asked them or not
  790. 19:53
  791. it's that they knew that I asked because
  792. 19:57
  793. they clearly had access to all of our
  794. 19:59
  795. messages and saw the truth now this does
  796. 20:03
  797. bring up the question why didn't I ask
  798. 20:06
  799. for people's IDs and the answer is
  800. 20:08
  801. because that would be asking people to
  802. 20:10
  803. Doc's themselves which seems far more
  804. 20:13
  805. risky besides there's no way to verify
  806. 20:17
  807. IDs and it's very easy for people to
  808. 20:20
  809. Photoshop up one in minutes and if
  810. 20:24
  811. someone is going to lie to get somewhere
  812. 20:27
  813. they're going to lie by the way charlie
  814. 20:30
  815. also would have seen that in our entire
  816. 20:32
  817. conversation I never sent them a dick
  818. 20:36
  819. pic so all these beliefs that Jared sent
  820. 20:40
  821. nudes to minors is factually untrue even
  822. 20:44
  823. the claims that I was manipulative or
  824. 20:46
  825. coerced them are untrue because I made
  826. 20:49
  827. it consistently clear as I did with
  828. 20:52
  829. everyone else that it was their choice
  830. 20:54
  831. if they wanted to every time more
  832. 20:59
  833. accurately it was Charlie who
  834. 21:02
  835. manipulated me and all of you with their
  836. 21:06
  837. lies these allegations against me about
  838. 21:09
  839. being a predator against underage people
  840. 21:12
  841. are fundamentally false charlie and chai
  842. 21:17
  843. began making these accusations against
  844. 21:18
  845. me back at the end of March beginning of
  846. 21:20
  847. April this year they were smearing my
  848. 21:23
  849. name back then by sending an email out
  850. 21:25
  851. with everything that you've seen already
  852. 21:28
  853. and the first people they sent these
  854. 21:32
  855. accusations out to was the game grumps
  856. 21:37
  857. not the police or law enforcement or the
  858. 21:41
  859. person I was married to at the time but
  860. 21:45
  861. the game grumps this can be easily
  862. 21:47
  863. proven with a tweet chai made to Aaron
  864. 21:49
  865. Hanson of the game grumps at the end of
  866. 21:51
  867. March about the email this Twitter
  868. 21:54
  869. account of Chai's was suspended shortly
  870. 21:56
  871. after for harassment sometime around
  872. 21:59
  873. April 2nd the game grumps private Adele
  874. 22:03
  875. because they believed the poisoned well
  876. 22:07
  877. and didn't ask me about it the next day
  878. 22:09
  879. I was shown the email and honestly even
  880. 22:13
  881. I believed it none of it
  882. 22:17
  883. sounded right to me but if they were
  884. 22:20
  885. saying this I must have done this right
  886. 22:23
  887. it must be true so I apologized to them
  888. 22:30
  889. it upset Charlie and chai that I got in
  890. 22:34
  891. contact with them and tried to apologize
  892. 22:36
  893. they called my apology manipulative
  894. 22:39
  895. here's the thing I apologized to them
  896. 22:43
  897. because they wanted me to let's go back
  898. 22:47
  899. to the email that they sent out to the
  900. 22:48
  901. game grumps at the very end chai and
  902. 22:51
  903. charlie state in that email that ideally
  904. 22:53
  905. they'd like me to always check the age
  906. 22:56
  907. of the people I'm talking to sexually
  908. 22:58
  909. which I did and to apologize to chai and
  910. 23:02
  911. Charlie so I did but now let's look at
  912. 23:05
  913. the email that they sent to normal boots
  914. 23:07
  915. a couple of days later scroll down to
  916. 23:10
  917. the very same section and they deleted
  918. 23:13
  919. the part where they wanted me to
  920. 23:15
  921. apologize
  922. 23:16
  923. they then weaponized my apology against
  924. 23:20
  925. me on Twitter after asking for it
  926. 23:23
  927. that is literally manipulation now when
  928. 23:28
  929. it's all broke out publicly normal boots
  930. 23:30
  931. did post a statement that I was no
  932. 23:32
  933. longer a part of their team
  934. 23:34
  935. I was not fired I resigned so that
  936. 23:38
  937. everyone else had normal boots wouldn't
  938. 23:40
  939. get dragged down with me I was already
  940. 23:42
  941. seeing the negativity in all of their
  942. 23:45
  943. videos and some of them started losing
  944. 23:47
  945. subscribers I left in the hopes that
  946. 23:50
  947. they wouldn't take any more additional
  948. 23:53
  949. collateral damage the last thing I want
  950. 23:55
  951. to note about this email is that chai
  952. 23:58
  953. and Charlie made it clear that they
  954. 24:00
  955. worked on it together and Charlie lied
  956. 24:04
  957. about their claims this doesn't
  958. 24:07
  959. automatically disprove chai but their
  960. 24:10
  961. close friendship and one of them being a
  962. 24:13
  963. liar does cast further doubt on Choi's
  964. 24:17
  965. claims especially since he has no
  966. 24:20
  967. evidence how can we trust chai when his
  968. 24:24
  969. cohort Charlie was already lying
  970. 24:29
  971. something I've been trying to
  972. 24:31
  973. through all of this is why would they
  974. 24:35
  975. even do this why make such dishonest
  976. 24:40
  977. claims and for as much as I have mulled
  978. 24:43
  979. it over I can only come down to the most
  980. 24:47
  981. logical conclusion which is also the
  982. 24:49
  983. simplest money and attention it's very
  984. 24:54
  985. clear that they both adore attention and
  986. 24:57
  987. desired it from the internet and
  988. 24:59
  989. especially from the game grumps both of
  990. 25:03
  991. them are massive fans of the grumps this
  992. 25:06
  993. is really easy to see from chai having
  994. 25:09
  995. another article on medium about meeting
  996. 25:12
  997. your idols and talks about being the
  998. 25:14
  999. game grumps the entire time Charlie has
  1000. 25:17
  1001. another tumblr called ego banked
  1002. 25:19
  1003. dedicated to sexual fantasies of Dan and
  1004. 25:22
  1005. Aaron fan fictions fan art and
  1006. 25:24
  1007. discussions of them having sex with each
  1008. 25:26
  1009. other
  1010. 25:27
  1011. along with Charlie talking about their
  1012. 25:29
  1013. own sexual experiences desires and
  1014. 25:31
  1015. fantasies which also contradicts their
  1016. 25:34
  1017. claim of being an experienced innocent
  1018. 25:37
  1019. or a baby Charlie even tweeted at Ross
  1020. 25:41
  1021. of the game grumps about watching a gay
  1022. 25:43
  1023. porn with an actor who looks just like
  1024. 25:45
  1025. him in 2015 the grab for attention
  1026. 25:49
  1027. ultimately proved successful both of
  1028. 25:52
  1029. them got a large influx of new Twitter
  1030. 25:54
  1031. followers as even denoted by Charlie and
  1032. 25:56
  1033. it was even better for chai since his
  1034. 25:59
  1035. previous Twitter account just got
  1036. 26:00
  1037. suspended
  1038. 26:01
  1039. he even got them the attentions of their
  1040. 26:03
  1041. idols that they adored and all of this
  1042. 26:05
  1043. gives them clout and social credits
  1044. 26:08
  1045. crash that give them a degree of having
  1046. 26:11
  1047. a form of notoriety and believability
  1048. 26:14
  1049. and admiration for taking down the bad
  1050. 26:18
  1051. guy they both were aware of this and
  1052. 26:22
  1053. tried to capitalize on it while all the
  1054. 26:25
  1055. drama was going on chai tweeted out
  1056. 26:28
  1057. links to his Amazon wishlist his PayPal
  1058. 26:30
  1059. and to his coffee and kept it pinned
  1060. 26:33
  1061. there for weeks even tweeted about it
  1062. 26:35
  1063. again at the end of May
  1064. 26:37
  1065. Charlie's pen tweet and it's still there
  1066. 26:40
  1067. is a link to their Commission's page for
  1068. 26:42
  1069. art and on this page is
  1070. 26:44
  1071. link for donations which goes straight
  1072. 26:47
  1073. to their PayPal this isn't a coincidence
  1074. 26:51
  1075. they've both shown a repeated behavior
  1076. 26:54
  1077. of a begging there's a tweet charlie
  1078. 26:57
  1079. made to Chai's now suspended twitter
  1080. 26:59
  1081. account last year about chai suddenly
  1082. 27:02
  1083. becoming famous and how he should link
  1084. 27:04
  1085. his paypal going back for a moment to
  1086. 27:07
  1087. Charlie's Eagle banked porn blog they've
  1088. 27:10
  1089. posted on they're asking for
  1090. 27:11
  1091. Commission's in May of 2017 and again
  1092. 27:14
  1093. the next month
  1094. 27:15
  1095. only this time asking for direct
  1096. 27:16
  1097. donations this post asking for money got
  1098. 27:19
  1099. near 1,400 notes which is huge for
  1100. 27:23
  1101. tumblr all while saying help me I'm a
  1102. 27:26
  1103. baby this shows that he begging can be
  1104. 27:30
  1105. successful asking for money or asking
  1106. 27:34
  1107. for commissions to draw porn chai and
  1108. 27:37
  1109. Charlie were not the only accusations of
  1110. 27:40
  1111. inappropriate behavior that came out as
  1112. 27:43
  1113. all of this was unfolding pamela horton
  1114. 27:46
  1115. tweeted out her own statements i will
  1116. 27:49
  1117. discuss those as well if you're not
  1118. 27:51
  1119. familiar with pamela she is currently a
  1120. 27:54
  1121. member of the youtube channel toaster
  1122. 27:56
  1123. ghost and was formerly a model for
  1124. 27:58
  1125. Playboy's gamer next door her statement
  1126. 28:02
  1127. alleges that at a nintendo event in
  1128. 28:03
  1129. early 2015 that both she and i were
  1130. 28:06
  1131. attending i looked up her nudes and
  1132. 28:08
  1133. forcefully showed them to a group of
  1134. 28:11
  1135. gentlemen also attending the event the
  1136. 28:13
  1137. event she's speaking of was a special
  1138. 28:15
  1139. preview event for the first Platoon game
  1140. 28:17
  1141. when it's going to be released for the
  1142. 28:20
  1143. Wii U which is also where Pamela and I
  1144. 28:22
  1145. first met this is confirmed by Amelia
  1146. 28:25
  1147. Talan a co-worker of Pamela's at playboy
  1148. 28:28
  1149. who I also met there for the first time
  1150. 28:30
  1151. when I first saw this I had no idea what
  1152. 28:35
  1153. she was talking about I don't remember
  1154. 28:39
  1155. doing anything of that sort that entire
  1156. 28:42
  1157. weekend again this isn't something I
  1158. 28:47
  1159. would do it was really confusing
  1160. 28:51
  1161. considering the numerous occasions after
  1162. 28:53
  1163. this event that panel and I were both
  1164. 28:55
  1165. that and were very friendly in a Mick
  1166. 28:58
  1167. I never had any sense of discomfort or
  1168. 29:01
  1169. disapproval from her so I had to ask
  1170. 29:05
  1171. other people what she's even talking
  1172. 29:08
  1173. about just to find out what she was
  1174. 29:11
  1175. referring to this statement was written
  1176. 29:14
  1177. in such a way as to make it seem as if
  1178. 29:16
  1179. she was present during the supposed
  1180. 29:18
  1181. instance and witnessed it which she was
  1182. 29:22
  1183. not she also left out a lot of details
  1184. 29:25
  1185. so that the story couldn't be verified
  1186. 29:28
  1187. such as the gentleman in question so
  1188. 29:31
  1189. I'll name them Gerard the completionist
  1190. 29:34
  1191. another person who requested to remain
  1192. 29:36
  1193. anonymous and Matt sohinki
  1194. 29:38
  1195. formerly of smoshgames and now of
  1196. 29:40
  1197. Toaster ghosts I'm saying I didn't do
  1198. 29:43
  1199. this the anonymous person said he
  1200. 29:46
  1201. doesn't remember me doing this Gerard
  1202. 29:49
  1203. said he doesn't remember me doing this
  1204. 29:51
  1205. and knows is not something that I would
  1206. 29:53
  1207. do which leads me to believe that Pamela
  1208. 29:57
  1209. heard about this from sohinki
  1210. 30:00
  1211. so of the four gentlemen present three
  1212. 30:04
  1213. of the four say it didn't happen I will
  1214. 30:08
  1215. tell you what I do remember happening
  1216. 30:09
  1217. while the four of us gentlemen were
  1218. 30:11
  1219. hanging out in one of our hotel rooms
  1220. 30:13
  1221. one of the evenings somebody had
  1222. 30:15
  1223. mentioned that Pamela has a Bayonetta
  1224. 30:17
  1225. cosplay I believe was so hinky who
  1226. 30:21
  1227. mentioned that but I'm I'm unsure on
  1228. 30:23
  1229. that detail at the time I had a vested
  1230. 30:28
  1231. interest in cosplay due to my
  1232. 30:30
  1233. relationship with a cosplayer so I
  1234. 30:33
  1235. remember looking up Pamela's costume and
  1236. 30:37
  1237. I remember being audibly excited after I
  1238. 30:42
  1239. realized I had just seen Pamela as
  1240. 30:45
  1241. Bayonetta
  1242. 30:46
  1243. at e3 2014 where she was modeling the
  1244. 30:50
  1245. costume promoting Bayonetta 2 for the
  1246. 30:54
  1247. Wii U I think this whole thing was a
  1248. 30:58
  1249. misunderstanding or miss remembrance I
  1250. 31:01
  1251. know what I did not do I did not
  1252. 31:04
  1253. scour the internet for her nudes and
  1254. 31:07
  1255. then forcefully show them to a friend of
  1256. 31:10
  1257. mine
  1258. 31:11
  1259. two strangers at the time but that's not
  1260. 31:17
  1261. the end of her accusations she goes on
  1262. 31:19
  1263. to talk about how I continued to show
  1264. 31:21
  1265. her disrespect refusing to shake her
  1266. 31:24
  1267. hand and making lewd comments about her
  1268. 31:27
  1269. and ignoring her in a group setting
  1270. 31:29
  1271. again these details are vague and again
  1272. 31:33
  1273. I don't know what she's talking about I
  1274. 31:36
  1275. had to ask around just to find out what
  1276. 31:39
  1277. she was even referring to and what I
  1278. 31:42
  1279. found out was that she was specifically
  1280. 31:44
  1281. referring to my behavior at e3 a few
  1282. 31:48
  1283. years ago during a panel that consisted
  1284. 31:50
  1285. of myself Pamela and Matt Pat here's the
  1286. 31:55
  1287. thing with that I've never done a panel
  1288. 31:59
  1289. with Matt Patton I've never done a panel
  1290. 32:02
  1291. with Pamela I've never done a panel with
  1292. 32:05
  1293. Matt Pat and Pamela together I've never
  1294. 32:08
  1295. done a panel at e3 this couldn't have
  1296. 32:14
  1297. happened because the circumstances in
  1298. 32:16
  1299. which they did don't exist and if you
  1300. 32:20
  1301. don't believe me on that that's okay
  1302. 32:23
  1303. ask Matt Pat a third party there
  1304. 32:25
  1305. supposedly present when this happened
  1306. 32:28
  1307. and if it does exist please find it if
  1308. 32:32
  1309. it was done at e3 it was recorded or
  1310. 32:35
  1311. live streamed and saved somewhere please
  1312. 32:40
  1313. find it I would love to see it because I
  1314. 32:44
  1315. don't know what she's talking about
  1316. 32:46
  1317. if it exists I will gladly eat my words
  1318. 32:50
  1319. and apologize but I know that it doesn't
  1320. 32:54
  1321. I have to admit here that I don't
  1322. 32:58
  1323. personally know Pamela that well we've
  1324. 33:04
  1325. hung out a few social gatherings balls
  1326. 33:07
  1327. in Los Angeles and we were always
  1328. 33:08
  1329. cordial with each other however I don't
  1330. 33:12
  1331. believe that Pamela is a liar I think
  1332. 33:19
  1333. this is something that probably actually
  1334. 33:22
  1335. happened to her and she was treated with
  1336. 33:24
  1337. some
  1338. 33:25
  1339. amount of disrespect but she's putting
  1340. 33:28
  1341. me in the place of someone who actually
  1342. 33:31
  1343. treated her this way I am choosing to
  1344. 33:36
  1345. believe that she isn't just making stuff
  1346. 33:38
  1347. up the outrage and the response of the
  1348. 33:42
  1349. Internet was formed entirely by
  1350. 33:46
  1351. misinformation and by using false
  1352. 33:49
  1353. equality by saying well this part is
  1354. 33:53
  1355. true therefore this part must also be
  1356. 33:56
  1357. true but people ran with a narrative
  1358. 34:01
  1359. formed by layers upon layers of
  1360. 34:05
  1361. accusations without facts this was
  1362. 34:11
  1363. perpetuated until it became the truth
  1364. 34:17
  1365. but it wasn't the truth and that didn't
  1366. 34:20
  1367. matter it wasn't important if it was
  1368. 34:23
  1369. true or not a mob was beating me down
  1370. 34:27
  1371. and everyone jumped in on it everyone
  1372. 34:31
  1373. wanted to show that they had the moral
  1374. 34:35
  1375. high ground by kicking me while I was
  1376. 34:38
  1377. down tweeting memes clown emojis and
  1378. 34:41
  1379. jokes to essentially virtue signal that
  1380. 34:45
  1381. they are somehow better than me without
  1382. 34:48
  1383. all the facts all for the
  1384. 34:50
  1385. congratulations of anonymous internet
  1386. 34:53
  1387. strangers youtubers that I've never even
  1388. 34:56
  1389. heard of and who I imagine never heard
  1390. 34:59
  1391. of me lashed out at me and made jokes at
  1392. 35:02
  1393. my expense
  1394. 35:03
  1395. some of them harassed me overtly others
  1396. 35:05
  1397. did it subtly but let's call it what it
  1398. 35:08
  1399. really is it's bullying imagine them
  1400. 35:11
  1401. walking down the street and seeing a
  1402. 35:13
  1403. group of people beating someone down to
  1404. 35:16
  1405. the ground to the point that he's
  1406. 35:18
  1407. helpless and a mobile and without even
  1408. 35:23
  1409. knowing anything of the situation or
  1410. 35:25
  1411. what the truth even is they joined in on
  1412. 35:29
  1413. it
  1414. 35:30
  1415. just so that they could feel better than
  1416. 35:34
  1417. the person they were punching down on
  1418. 35:36
  1419. what was amazing was seeing the sheer
  1420. 35:39
  1421. of coverage on drama YouTube channels
  1422. 35:42
  1423. dozens of them all weighing in from a
  1424. 35:44
  1425. supposed neutral stance not one of them
  1426. 35:49
  1427. tried to reach out to me not one of them
  1428. 35:53
  1429. tried to ask me hey is any of this true
  1430. 35:56
  1431. what's your side of the story they
  1432. 36:01
  1433. aren't interested in truth or being fair
  1434. 36:04
  1435. they wanted clicks and because of that
  1436. 36:08
  1437. they further perpetuated misinformation
  1438. 36:12
  1439. and stirred up a mob I already know
  1440. 36:16
  1441. people are moving their goal posts so
  1442. 36:19
  1443. that they can continue to condemn me by
  1444. 36:22
  1445. saying oh well he's still a cheater
  1446. 36:26
  1447. no cheating happened I told my wife of
  1448. 36:30
  1449. the time that I no longer wanted to be
  1450. 36:34
  1451. with her in October of 2018 I was
  1452. 36:40
  1453. refused I was told no I was denied I had
  1454. 36:48
  1455. my career threatened
  1456. 36:49
  1457. I felt controlled I sought therapists
  1458. 36:54
  1459. and lawyers to assist in separating we
  1460. 36:57
  1461. tried discernment therapy to no avail
  1462. 37:00
  1463. I have texts from that time that show I
  1464. 37:03
  1465. was refused and that it was going to be
  1466. 37:06
  1467. taken as a warning I now have texts
  1468. 37:10
  1469. between myself and a professional third
  1470. 37:13
  1471. party well aware of the entire situation
  1472. 37:15
  1473. that shows I was trying to end it around
  1474. 37:20
  1475. that time Holly's being called a
  1476. 37:23
  1477. homewrecker which is such an antiquated
  1478. 37:25
  1479. term and that makes it seem like that I
  1480. 37:28
  1481. had no power or choice or agency in my
  1482. 37:33
  1483. own relationship which is not true it
  1484. 37:35
  1485. was my choice to not be in that
  1486. 37:40
  1487. relationship anymore and Holly didn't
  1488. 37:43
  1489. cheat on Ross Ross knows literally
  1490. 37:47
  1491. everything he knew everything was going
  1492. 37:49
  1493. on with me and Holly he knew everything
  1494. 37:52
  1495. that was going on
  1496. 37:53
  1497. with my personal relationship Ross even
  1498. 37:57
  1499. flew up to see me in March of 2018 to
  1500. 38:01
  1501. support me he had some other goals that
  1502. 38:04
  1503. weekend but he did make it a point to
  1504. 38:07
  1505. see me to encourage me and to support me
  1506. 38:11
  1507. and Ross moved out and left Holly while
  1508. 38:16
  1509. she was away at PAX West last year so to
  1510. 38:19
  1511. say that she cheated on him is wholly
  1512. 38:23
  1513. inaccurate and quite frankly none of
  1514. 38:28
  1515. that should matter breakups happen
  1516. 38:32
  1517. sometimes relationships don't work out
  1518. 38:35
  1519. and anything to do with that is none of
  1520. 38:40
  1521. your business so what about the people
  1522. 38:44
  1523. who still want to support me what can
  1524. 38:48
  1525. you do well it would mean a lot to me if
  1526. 38:52
  1527. you could watch my youtube videos again
  1528. 38:54
  1529. either on this channel over over on the
  1530. 38:58
  1531. gameplay channel it would mean a lot to
  1532. 39:01
  1533. me if you would watch my twitch streams
  1534. 39:04
  1535. since I'll probably be there a bit more
  1536. 39:07
  1537. since it doesn't require as much
  1538. 39:09
  1539. emotional energy as making youtube
  1540. 39:11
  1541. videos there's a petition to get Daisuke
  1542. 39:14
  1543. more action back on the air if you want
  1544. 39:17
  1545. to follow that link in the description
  1546. 39:18
  1547. and sign that I would really appreciate
  1548. 39:21
  1549. it if you want you can try to help
  1550. 39:23
  1551. combat all the misinformation that's
  1552. 39:26
  1553. still being spread around either by
  1554. 39:29
  1555. sharing this video or engaging ill
  1556. 39:33
  1557. informs people respectfully and that's
  1558. 39:36
  1559. not going to be easy there's going to be
  1560. 39:38
  1561. a lot of cognitive dissonance and the
  1562. 39:41
  1563. fear of social exclusion it's going to
  1564. 39:44
  1565. be painful for some people like a gear
  1566. 39:47
  1567. in their head suddenly going in the
  1568. 39:49
  1569. opposite direction
  1570. 39:51
  1571. nobody likes hearing that they're wrong
  1572. 39:55
  1573. be kind and be patient if you would like
  1574. 40:00
  1575. to do more research on their own to
  1576. 40:03
  1577. continue being informed
  1578. 40:06
  1579. are a few places that I can point out
  1580. 40:08
  1581. the original projared subreddit was
  1582. 40:11
  1583. vandalized to hell and locked down and
  1584. 40:14
  1585. the mods removed me from it and are
  1586. 40:15
  1587. refusing to relinquish control so the
  1588. 40:18
  1589. pro jared 2 subreddit has a lot of
  1590. 40:20
  1591. discussion and additional information
  1592. 40:22
  1593. there is a truth blog about the whole
  1594. 40:25
  1595. ordeal that is trying to make sense of
  1596. 40:27
  1597. it all
  1598. 40:27
  1599. they're doing it they're doing a pretty
  1600. 40:29
  1601. good job they don't have everything but
  1602. 40:31
  1603. they're doing a pretty good job and
  1604. 40:32
  1605. there are a couple of YouTube videos
  1606. 40:35
  1607. that are mostly accurate I'd also like
  1608. 40:40
  1609. to humbly request to stop harassing me
  1610. 40:45
  1611. to don't harass Holly don't harass Heidi
  1612. 40:51
  1613. don't harass my friends especially those
  1614. 40:55
  1615. who tried to stand up for me don't
  1616. 40:57
  1617. harass anybody I know a lot of people
  1618. 41:00
  1619. reacted very emotionally to all of this
  1620. 41:05
  1621. and they may have said or done things
  1622. 41:09
  1623. that they now regret and if this someone
  1624. 41:12
  1625. is you I want you to know I forgive you
  1626. 41:16
  1627. and I hope that you can forgive me for
  1628. 41:20
  1629. anything - and there will still be
  1630. 41:24
  1631. people who are still angry about it or
  1632. 41:28
  1633. won't accept the nudes blog thing or
  1634. 41:31
  1635. whatever and that's okay they are
  1636. 41:34
  1637. allowed to feel how they feel I'm not
  1638. 41:39
  1639. going anywhere I'm still going to be
  1640. 41:41
  1641. making videos talking about Final
  1642. 41:44
  1643. Fantasy or D&D; or Magic the Gathering or
  1644. 41:48
  1645. whatever else that I want I'll still be
  1646. 41:51
  1647. streaming I'll still be doing my thing I
  1648. 41:55
  1649. do have one more request the next time
  1650. 41:59
  1651. you see someone being cancelled with the
  1652. 42:04
  1653. mob attacking them and going after them
  1654. 42:07
  1655. ask what's the other side story is there
  1656. 42:13
  1657. more to this how do you know they
  1658. 42:16
  1659. deserve to be bullied
  1660. 42:19
  1661. and shamed through evidence or through
  1662. 42:23
  1663. public opinion
  1664. 42:25
  1665. nobody likes canceled culture until they
  1666. 42:31
  1667. get an opportunity to cancel someone

 

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On lolcow they're talking about how Jared's audience was made up of mostly kids and they are right. He was on Nickelodeon, a kid's network, yet he still ran several porn blogs and encouraged nudes, to top it off he flooded his main blog with hentai after tumblr announced the ban. 

He's not just an idiot, he's insidious. He knows his audience is made up of mostly younger people and decided it would be a good idea to start showing as much porn as possible and asking for nudes from fans. 

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Yeah I noticed new tumblr blue on it and how weird the top part of the chat was, as someone who goes on tumblr just to look at art a lot, I was very confused as to why the top of the chat had only one name on it but didn't say anything

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I just realized even if the video wasn't him basically admitting he's a giant asshole and didn't do proper age checks when he has a fandom of underaged kids,him only releasing it 3 months later after everything is manipulation 101. 

- Jared gets called out and everyone is on his ass for his actions 

- Jared says nothing publicly for a long time but is obviously working through Holly and doing his own stuff in the background. Including threatening legal action towards anyone. 

- Holly's and Jared's flying monkies work with Holly to try and create some sort of narrative where Jared is totally innocent dudes 

- Jared just happens to 'suddenly' have evidence and makes a video where he made himself look worse than he actually was.  

- And then streams on twitch likes it's no big deal and not suspicious. 

He's trying to make people feel bad for leaving him and doubting him. So he can gain their trust again so he can get away with it. 

 

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 He's trying to make people feel bad for leaving him and doubting him. So he can gain their trust again so he can get away with it. 

 

The fact that he actually has the arrogance to forgive people for doubting him in the video like some benevolent martyr sickens me.

What sickens me more is the idiots who just eat it up. This whole thing perfectly highlights how toxic the RP and gaming worlds are. That they think all of his actions are perfectly fine just because he didn’t knowingly receive nudes from minors absolutely disgusts me. Receiving nudes from any fans is enough in my book.

He’s a pervert who abused his platform and abused his wife, I’m calling a fucking spade a spade.

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Not asking for ID bc he didn't want ppl to self dox is fucking stupid. Also, you can grill them with background questions like what's ur major, do you go to school if so what college, what do you do for work, or check other socials sometimes they forget and post their actual age in their bio.

Or like you can do the most obvious thing and not ask for nudes when ur in a relationship with someone and are aware ur fanbase is like MOSTLY MINORS

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Not asking for ID bc he didn't want ppl to self dox is fucking stupid. Also, you can grill them with background questions like what's ur major, do you go to school if so what college, what do you do for work, or check other socials sometimes they forget and post their actual age in their bio.

Or like you can do the most obvious thing and not ask for nudes when ur in a relationship with someone and are aware ur fanbase is like MOSTLY MINORS

 

That would be required to not think with your dick tho!

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Not asking for ID bc he didn't want ppl to self dox is fucking stupid. Also, you can grill them with background questions like what's ur major, do you go to school if so what college, what do you do for work, or check other socials sometimes they forget and post their actual age in their bio.

Or like you can do the most obvious thing and not ask for nudes when ur in a relationship with someone and are aware ur fanbase is like MOSTLY MINORS

Exactly. He did the absolute bare minimum and he’s a lot of things but he’s not stupid. It’s not because he didn’t think, he just didn’t care. It was basically due diligence to show you did due dilligence, his intent wasn’t to protect minors from getting hurt it was to protect himself because he knew if shit hit the fan he could be all “well I did ask their ages 🤷‍♂️.” Dude is total trash.

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Not asking for ID bc he didn't want ppl to self dox is fucking stupid. Also, you can grill them with background questions like what's ur major, do you go to school if so what college, what do you do for work, or check other socials sometimes they forget and post their actual age in their bio.

Or like you can do the most obvious thing and not ask for nudes when ur in a relationship with someone and are aware ur fanbase is like MOSTLY MINORS

 

Yeah literally blogs on tumblr who did it literally said censor your name and Address when showing id. They also never fucking showed the fucking id they just showed the nude of the not minor when they verified they were 18 or older. 

Exactly. He did the absolute bare minimum and he’s a lot of things but he’s not stupid. It’s not because he didn’t think, he just didn’t care. It was basically due diligence to show you did due dilligence, his intent wasn’t to protect minors from getting hurt it was to protect himself because he knew if shit hit the fan he could be all “well I did ask their ages 🤷‍♂️.” Dude is total trash.

 

Also he showed him asking age like what? once? He sure didn't ask about the ones that just got submitted to his blog directly. 

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Jared mentioned an incident with Pamela. I hadn't ever heard of it but she is covering it here. Tbh I can't be bothered watching it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGr6z6nktU&feature=youtu.be

 

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I feel like this is all you really need to know. I'm trying to watch her video but it makes no real sense and it's a lot of her beating around the bush on the point.

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Jared mentioned an incident with Pamela. I hadn't ever heard of it but she is covering it here. Tbh I can't be bothered watching it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGr6z6nktU&feature=youtu.be

 

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Watching Pamela's video is kind of disturbing. She says she's always felt disrespected because a lot of people assumed she wasn't into games and just using it to be a sexy gamer girl because of her playboy past. Now she's saying what happened wasn't her story to tell because she wasn't there?

She says her initial goal in making that post was "taking a stand for someone who needed support", but then she says it wasn't her place and she shouldn't have said anything.

>"Any and all issues between Jared and I have been resolved. I can't speak to anything else in the situation, it's not my place. I had no other interactions other than what I talked about."

>"Jared and I worked what those miscommunications and misinformation was and I apologized to him, which was the important part for my actions. And he apologized to me and we ended that on a good level. Y'know, we understand each other."

She also says she never claimed she was on a panel with Jared. Someone else confused that and told that to Jared. She just said it was before a panel, not that he was on the panel.
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