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Julia Zelg

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People wait for over a year to just get counselling. Though to be fair they could spend their money on counselling rather than pissing it up the wall. 

 

I waited two years for diagnosis of a Neurodevelopmental disorder, only to be told there was no funding and I should go private.

 

I got CBT for anxiety in the meantime as a condition of referral and it was just a bunch of cheap mind tricks which have no business ever being in the realm of mental health treatment.

Private counselling is hit and miss because there are a lot of CBT-focused therapist who really drank the Kool-Aid, whilst the NHS has moved away from traditional forms of therapy which focus on the root of problems rather than just band aiding the symptoms.

 

Inb4 we get see a Better Help sponsorship video though. Bonus points for an affiliate link too.

 

I've been waiting 3 years now, it's pointless. Good point though they do have cash to see therapists

 

It can depend on the Trust/CCG too. I lived in two different boroughs under the same trust and was sat on a waiting list for diagnosis for two years in one borough whilst the second borough basically did a referral to a specialist unit there and then.

After I spent thousands on a fucking private psych...

I had a partner who was told they were pretty sure she had BPD but they decided to refer her to an eating disorders unit because it was the quickest way she’d get help. The ED unit made her sit through a course of group CBT (which was hilarious) before deciding that she needed actual BPD treatment and discharging her.

It’s all a joke, so I don’t blame people for trying out alternative therapies.

 

Eileen probably should have made the disclaimer about using it as a complimentary treatment alongside traditional medicines a bit more clear though before the reeeeeeeeeeee brigade arrived in the comments.

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At the end it is always going to be drugs, be it SSRI's or this CBC. You have a right to make your choice about something that doesn't heal but makes things bearable at the cost of "X" in the long term. But what I personally would never dare to do is tell some strangers watching me in a video which drug is best. Having to take them is terrible, I hate it, I don't want it for others if it can be avoided, I would always hope they find something else unlike me. Mental health medication is something too personal, you can advise a friend, a family member... not people you don't even know.

And I know about the incredible waiting times for therapy. Seems to be a problem in whole Europe. I personally don't believe in therapists anymore. This topic is difficult, there is not really much research, or understanding or real help. It's a hard fight where your victory depends mostly on yourself and the ones who choose to fight alongside you out of love.

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At the end it is always going to be drugs, be it SSRI's or this CBC. You have a right to make your choice about something that doesn't heal but makes things bearable at the cost of "X" in the long term. But what I personally would never dare to do is tell some strangers watching me in a video which drug is best. Having to take them is terrible, I hate it, I don't want it for others if it can be avoided, I would always hope they find something else unlike me. Mental health medication is something too personal, you can advise a friend, a family member... not people you don't even know.

And I know about the incredible waiting times for therapy. Seems to be a problem in whole Europe. I personally don't believe in therapists anymore. This topic is difficult, there is not really much research, or understanding or real help. It's a hard fight where your victory depends mostly on yourself and the ones who choose to fight alongside you out of love.

 

I haven’t fully experimented with CBD due to the fact that there’s a lot of crap being sold and it takes a bit of research to find where to get better quality stuff.

The other problem is that it’s going to take a long time to shed the notion of it being pseudoscience due to prohibition. There is some actual science behind it all and are encouraging studies, with limited reports of side effects.

I don’t see the harm in making people aware of what should be seen as a supplement, but I guess she could have presented it in a clearer and safer way.

Especially when it looks like she doesn’t know anything about CBD. She had her glasses on for the entire sponsorship and was reading through a script she’d prepared. She lost the glasses for the main part of the video.

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I would definetly say if you've been addicted to drugs you probably have an addictive personality and should also stay away from alcohol.  

 

Agree.  If you had an addiction issue to the point where you're homeless and living in an airport then, yes, you should avoid alcohol at all costs.  Eileen didn't have a an "overuse" issue she had a straight up addiction.    She has junkie written all over her.

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I waited two years for diagnosis of a Neurodevelopmental disorder, only to be told there was no funding and I should go private.

 

I got CBT for anxiety in the meantime as a condition of referral and it was just a bunch of cheap mind tricks which have no business ever being in the realm of mental health treatment.

Private counselling is hit and miss because there are a lot of CBT-focused therapist who really drank the Kool-Aid, whilst the NHS has moved away from traditional forms of therapy which focus on the root of problems rather than just band aiding the symptoms.

 

Inb4 we get see a Better Help sponsorship video though. Bonus points for an affiliate link too.

 

It can depend on the Trust/CCG too. I lived in two different boroughs under the same trust and was sat on a waiting list for diagnosis for two years in one borough whilst the second borough basically did a referral to a specialist unit there and then.

After I spent thousands on a fucking private psych...

I had a partner who was told they were pretty sure she had BPD but they decided to refer her to an eating disorders unit because it was the quickest way she’d get help. The ED unit made her sit through a course of group CBT (which was hilarious) before deciding that she needed actual BPD treatment and discharging her.

It’s all a joke, so I don’t blame people for trying out alternative therapies.

 

Eileen probably should have made the disclaimer about using it as a complimentary treatment alongside traditional medicines a bit more clear though before the reeeeeeeeeeee brigade arrived in the comments.

 

my dearest friend lives in England and as soon as she said "CBT" I recoiled in horror because I had the fortune of also taking psychology classes  ( I was trying to get a degree in art therapy)... and she has neuropathy. They tried saying it's in her head! It's horrifying. I explained all the various approaches of psych that I had learnt of and she and I compared experience of therapists ..  I have a Rogers Humanist with two masters in counseling and she herself has told me her opinion on CBT. I also did learn from my best friend that the privatised healthcare is better than what the NHS forced on her. And she wasnt able to get private help unfortunately so she stopped going. Luckily her side effects from the CBT also abated. You could say she was less than interested in being alive thanks to that. A lot of Americans say that the free healthcare must be amazing in england and dont understand or look confused when I tell them the truth. My sympathies for you completely. 

 

I know it was off topic but I did just want to say that this is a real issue for people seeking mental healthcare in a "legitimate " manner and turning to alternative methods is sometimes less costly.

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didn't she say that she did her doctorate in the past?  

 

I take issue with Eileen's self-aggrandizing behavior. She uses wording in such a way as to make you not see what she isnt saying. 

 

 

"Vocal and knowledgeable advocate " - she did go to many doctors over many years and lied to them all to get multiple prescriptions of a tranquilizer  called lithium (it's in one of her videos)   

 

My dad was prescribed Lithium. It creates textbook delusional psychosis. Fortunately he got off of it. So yes Eileen certainly IS knowledgeable.

Of drugs and how to get them. 

 

She studied undergrad psychology. Well, so did I.  And it isn't much except a general overview of psychology models and abnormal psychology.  If you get the right professors and can stay up to date. She took it when? The 80s? Its changed  a lot. 

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my dearest friend lives in England and as soon as she said "CBT" I recoiled in horror because I had the fortune of also taking psychology classes  ( I was trying to get a degree in art therapy)... and she has neuropathy. They tried saying it's in her head! It's horrifying. I explained all the various approaches of psych that I had learnt of and she and I compared experience of therapists ..  I have a Rogers Humanist with two masters in counseling and she herself has told me her opinion on CBT. I also did learn from my best friend that the privatised healthcare is better than what the NHS forced on her. And she wasnt able to get private help unfortunately so she stopped going. Luckily her side effects from the CBT also abated. You could say she was less than interested in being alive thanks to that. A lot of Americans say that the free healthcare must be amazing in england and dont understand or look confused when I tell them the truth. My sympathies for you completely. 

 

I know it was off topic but I did just want to say that this is a real issue for people seeking mental healthcare in a "legitimate " manner and turning to alternative methods is sometimes less costly.

I take issue with Eileen's self-aggrandizing behavior. She uses wording in such a way as to make you not see what she isnt saying. 

 

 

"Vocal and knowledgeable advocate " - she did go to many doctors over many years and lied to them all to get multiple prescriptions of a tranquilizer  called lithium (it's in one of her videos)   

 

My dad was prescribed Lithium. It creates textbook delusional psychosis. Fortunately he got off of it. So yes Eileen certainly IS knowledgeable.

Of drugs and how to get them. 

 

She studied undergrad psychology. Well, so did I.  And it isn't much except a general overview of psychology models and abnormal psychology.  If you get the right professors and can stay up to date. She took it when? The 80s? Its changed  a lot. 

 

Are you sure it was lithium?

What an odd thing to abuse!

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Are you sure it was lithium?

What an odd thing to abuse!

 

I thought it was Ambien, the sleeping pill.

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I thought it was Ambien, the sleeping pill.

 

I thought so too. Ambien and Ativan. Her and Judy gold made groaning noises as they recounted their pill abuse.

Conning doctors to get sleeping pills and benzos is one thing but faking Bipolar is another altogether. If she ever was abusing Lithium, she's far more hardcore than we realised.

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Hi, new here, but I read you a half a year.

I am just curious, what do you think about this Patreons mess? if I count well, J has 10-15 patreons in this moment ( one is Eileen :D ), so that is $50 plus a month, but I feel she left them alone, because on this Sunday, she didn’t post anything there. Or from February every patreons gave up the paying? 9_9

Do you think she will continue this shit? I think it was a big mistake-pain-disappointment to her, because she had to realize that she is not as popular as she thinks.

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Also I just noticed that Eileen basically gives her address away on her instagram, I was able to locate her apartment VERY easily. She isn't the brightest, imagine if one of these people she attacks on twitter finds this out? She doesn't know these people that she bashes on a daily.

I'm a man who's self employed, I'm a busy guy daily and it took me...5 minutes to find her apartment, I know the street, roughly the number...all I'd have to do is knock until I find them if I was a fucking psycho stalker. Eileen...for God's sake please remove the locations on your posts. It's not safe at all. 

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Also I just noticed that Eileen basically gives her address away on her instagram, I was able to locate her apartment VERY easily. She isn't the brightest, imagine if one of these people she attacks on twitter finds this out? She doesn't know these people that she bashes on a daily.

I'm a man who's self employed, I'm a busy guy daily and it took me...5 minutes to find her apartment, I know the street, roughly the number...all I'd have to do is knock until I find them if I was a fucking psycho stalker. Eileen...for God's sake please remove the locations on your posts. It's not safe at all. 

 

they didn’t opt out of the public electoral roll and she had a company registered at home so the address was always available even if they weren’t tagging.

Madness

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they didn’t opt out of the public electoral roll and she had a company registered at home so the address was always available even if they weren’t tagging.

Madness

 

She has no idea how to be safe on the internet. Julia needs to show grandma how to work the internet in order for Eileen to still be down with it. Peace out. 

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Also I just noticed that Eileen basically gives her address away on her instagram, I was able to locate her apartment VERY easily. She isn't the brightest, imagine if one of these people she attacks on twitter finds this out? She doesn't know these people that she bashes on a daily.

I'm a man who's self employed, I'm a busy guy daily and it took me...5 minutes to find her apartment, I know the street, roughly the number...all I'd have to do is knock until I find them if I was a fucking psycho stalker. Eileen...for God's sake please remove the locations on your posts. It's not safe at all. 

 

I lived in South Kensington two semesters ago for school, and it was odd because I could recognize exactly where they were in every video and post and whatever. I was only there for a semester and knew generally where they lived (not the exact apartment number but you get my point) and I'm absolutely horrible with directions. If can find them, literally anyone can. 

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I thought so too. Ambien and Ativan. Her and Judy gold made groaning noises as they recounted their pill abuse.
Conning doctors to get sleeping pills and benzos is one thing but faking Bipolar is another altogether. If she ever was abusing Lithium, she's far more hardcore than we realised.

 

Lithium is sometimes prescribed to people with substance abuse problems. It’s not a drug of abuse on its own, though.

 

Using hypnotics and benzos at the same time is hardcore, though. By ‘hardcore’ of course I mean really dangerous. 

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