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Julia Zelg

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Her "lack of work ethic" doesn't bother me neither does her lifestyle. People deserve nice lives without having to work themselves to death, and it's not Eileen's fault that some people have to. I think that's a completely separate issue.

Her life style bothers me because it is mostly self destructive, but I have the same opinion about the "work ethic".

We are supposed to believe that, as you said, working oneself to death is something commendable, that one's self worth is measured in how valuable you are for society. I don't agree with that but with my own term of work ethic, which would be working on oneself, to grow as a person, to be better, to learn and apply that knowedge in life.

Eileen hasn't shown any signs of having anything inside her, like she got nothing out of 62 years of life. She didn't become better, she has sustained herself by scamming others and changes masks over and over. She doesn't even know who she is.

It might not be Eileen's fault that others have to work very hard while she drinks away the hours of the day, but it is still not fair and I think it is only natural for those who have to do it to resent her, giving that not only she is not working but she lives a confortable life by being a criminal and maybe because she is on benefits.

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But where is the proof that she's on benefits? It's incredibly hard to get benefits in the UK even if you do have multiple illnesses. Plenty of people are dying because they're being denied benefits. So, I highly doubt she's on them - or if she is she must be hiding a plethora of health issues from YouTube.  

 

I don't assume she's on benefits. I think the perception she is receiving state help is based on the storytime where she talked about coming to the UK when she was homeless and at the height of her addiction purely because she knew she would receive housing assistance and medical care. No way of knowing for sure. 

Didn't she get an inheritence or something at one point? She could have made investments.. could have done anything with that money, it could still be funding her lifestyle now. I think in terms of money and fraud she's smarter than we're giving her credit for. Plus, benefits in the UK are next to nothing - no way she'd be able to afford the lifestyle she's living.

Her "lack of work ethic" doesn't bother me neither does her lifestyle. People deserve nice lives without having to work themselves to death, and it's not Eileen's fault that some people have to. I think that's a completely separate issue.

 

She has talked (on the Judy Gold podcast and in videos) about how she spent all the inheritance and money from a car accident settlement on "cars, dinners, apartments". She has stated in several contexts she has a long history of using money unwisely (in addition to her history of credit abuse) and has spoken more than once about regretting not saving. I don't think it's likely she invested wisely or has any proceeds from that. I think their current lifestyle is mostly funded by Julia and supplemented by Eileen's channel. But it's definitely possible to live their lifestyle without much money- it's just not terribly smart.

I agree with you that people are free to spend their money on what they want and it's not Eileen's fault other people struggle financially; however, Eileen stirs inevitable resentment by constantly espousing socialist soundbites while living a sort of pseudo Trump jetset lifestyle, replete with young wife, cosmetic procedures, and no honest graft.

But I can agree to disagree with you about her lifestyle choices- I think social conscience (something Eileen claims to have in spades) involves ensuring you contribute in some way (not necessarily financially) to the society around you, which in turn means you have a moral stake in institutions like the NHS and the UK safety net. Not a completely libertarian idea, but I think it's reasonable. 

Her life style bothers me because it is mostly self destructive, but I have the same opinion about the "work ethic".

We are supposed to believe that, as you said, working oneself to death is something commendable, that one's self worth is measured in how valuable you are for society. 

 

 

I didn't say working yourself to death is commendable. I think society should aspire to avoid that being a necessity for people. Someone with a brain and grandiose political ideas like Eileen should use her infinite leisure hours to find ways to help grassroots organisations make that a reality. 

I also think the idea that a person's entire worth is measured by their value to society is ludicrous. But for the average person, a significant part of life's meaning comes out of contributing to society. 

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If Eileen has been receiving benefits since she came back to the UK, it’s entirely possible she’s flown ‘under the radar’ as long-term claimants are less likely to be scrutinised as recent ones. She probably only has to fill in a form occasionally saying her circumstances haven’s changed since her original claim. She must be getting assistance to live in that flat and presumably that’s where she’s been living all this time, since she mentioned how she managed to jump the queue ‘fortuitously’ after her supposed seizure at the housing office. You can get housing assistance without receiving long-term unemployment or sickness benefits, but it seems unlikely given that she doesn’t appear to have had another revenue stream pre-Julia. 

 

She can be a sponge all she wants, it’s the hypocrisy that gets me. Claiming benefits isn’t shameful in the least when you and your family need them for whatever reason. Most people who have to live on benefits wish their circumstances were different, but I don’t get the impression Eileen cares at all, and doesn’t want to change. She doesn’t want to work. As for health issues, she’s mentioned a torn meniscus, which is a treatable condition requiring fairly minor surgery. As others have mentioned, she could do *something* more with her time and energy than she’s currently, but she doesn’t. Why is the question. I have my thoughts, but they’re very ungenerous so I’ll keep them to myself. 

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Julia made more than 500 videos. From now on she will start to invent stories. Nobody will know if is true or not.

 

She's been doing that for several years.

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Hmm then I'm really confused about where she's getting her money? Since most benefits changed to Universal credit I think if she was on them they definitely would have been reviewed at that point. But like I said before even if it was benefits she has such an expensive lifestyle -they wouldn't be able to fund it alone. Maybe she's taken out loans /payday loans or something. 

Yeah I agree about the lifestyle thing of drinking and destroying herself, that's definitely not healthy but it is pretty common in the UK.  Most people I know do the same thing. But having said that most pepole I know are in their 20s-40s, not 60s. 

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If Eileen would have an invisible illness, she would not stop mentioning it, doing videos about it, reminding Julia about it. Eileen likes to share everything that will make her look like a tragic victim, hence the videos about her adicction, her living in an airport, the constant remainder that at 62 she is ancient and she is going to die soon...

I don't want to talk about my personal experience, but I have to say that Eileen shielding herself under the cover of an invisible illness would make me angry. If she would have this invisible illness (we are talking about mental illness, right?) she would not only deserve help but also would acquire a responsability to understand her situation and do what is best for keeping the illness far from becoming her owner. Eileen seems to dive gladly in her disgusting behaviour.

She is an abuser and someone who only sees what profit she can get from anything. She would happily abuse the system and make profit of what for others would be a tragedy, even if it is her own tragedy.

 

The addiction/airport video etc was a set up for the arrest stuff. It was just before they went to New York and they needed to lay a bit of ground work to enable them to thread the whole story together after the arrest.

Until that point, Eileen had never publicly shown any chinks in her armour. She had spent several years on Twitter cultivating the notion that she was an activist who spent her time between London and the US and had never let her guard down.

The only reason she did so at that point was because they knew she'd get arrested and they wanted to be able to control the narrative after.

She’s clearly got the skills and past experience of making a living as a remote technical writer. Does she realise what a luxury it is to be able to make honest money while sitting on her laptop at home? Couldn’t she even put herself on a modest schedule of doing that part time? It’s not like she’s making YouTube videos or learning to edit after all.
 

 

There's precious little evidence of even that. The only thing I've ever been able to find are a couple of press releases on a business news website about appointments in a shady company based in Texas. I looked further into the company and it appears to have been some sort of investment vehicle which was bought out, renamed and re-sectored multiple times whilst paying seeking investment and never turning a profit.
It finished up as a oil exploration company paying its directors circa $200k with no turnover.

Hardly a glowing reference.


 

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I don't see how anything can pay for a flat in Kensington of all places apart from benefits. Most people live with friends renting a room like Julia did before just to be able to afford to live in London. Even if you have council housing it's not cheap. Most people would stay on benefits just to avoid the high rent. I had to leave to go to a cheaper city because it was upward of 900pcm for a studio flat in South East  London. And that wasn't a good area. With her history she probably has a long medical history and yes it's hard to get benefits but not impossible and usually it's the people that least deserve it. If you get disability living allowance you can get your housing paid for plus receive about 800 a month to live on. Unless she had inheritance from super rich family it would be insane to fritter it away on rent for so many years and not get a Mortgage. Rent in Kensington is astronomical and council rent has gone up a lot over the years too. Crazy that Londoners are being pushed out and there's Eileen getting council housing a feeble old pill popping alcoholic. 

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Hmm then I'm really confused about where she's getting her money? Since most benefits changed to Universal credit I think if she was on them they definitely would have been reviewed at that point. But like I said before even if it was benefits she has such an expensive lifestyle -they wouldn't be able to fund it alone. Maybe she's taken out loans /payday loans or something. 

Yeah I agree about the lifestyle thing of drinking and destroying herself, that's definitely not healthy but it is pretty common in the UK.  Most people I know do the same thing. But having said that most pepole I know are in their 20s-40s, not 60s. 

 

We don't know much beyond the fact that she lives in a Housing Association flat and at one point was claiming Jobseeker's. Everything in between is a mystery.

The sporadic appearance and abandonment of companies suggest that freelance work was never steady, if it came at all. She could have been on incapacity benefit long term, which would have allowed her to claim housing benefit also but Universal Credit would have put paid to that. She would struggle seriously to qualify for anything under the current climate of harsh assessments and having Julia registered on the electoral register in her flat would have been suicidal were she still trying to claim.

I've mentioned before that she has Bank of America, Citibank, Capital One and Lloyds Bank in her bookmarks bar.
To have a credit card, as well as two bank accounts in a country she no longer lives in suggests that there is in fact, money sitting somewhere.

That money does not come from Youtube. They simply do not have the viewer numbers to fund the kind of spending we've seen since they were together.

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To those trying to say that Eileen isn't on benefits and/or for an underlying health issue, go back to this article? 

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We don't know much beyond the fact that she lives in a Housing Association flat and at one point was claiming Jobseeker's. Everything in between is a mystery.
The sporadic appearance and abandonment of companies suggest that freelance work was never steady, if it came at all. She could have been on incapacity benefit long term, which would have allowed her to claim housing benefit also but Universal Credit would have put paid to that. She would struggle seriously to qualify for anything under the current climate of harsh assessments and having Julia registered on the electoral register in her flat would have been suicidal were she still trying to claim.

I've mentioned before that she has Bank of America, Citibank, Capital One and Lloyds Bank in her bookmarks bar.
To have a credit card, as well as two bank accounts in a country she no longer lives in suggests that there is in fact, money sitting somewhere.

 

That fits with my pet therory that she’s got money squirrelled away all over the place, but little to no taxable income that would make her ineligible for whatever benefits she was grandfathered in with, which may not be means-tested (likely what used to be called incapacity benefit). People over 60 are allowed more in savings and bonds than other claimants, but the DWP doesn’t automatically trawl all your bank accounts and needs your cooperation to do so anyway, plus if she’s got money stashed abroad, well... I wouldn’t put it past Eileen just not to declare it.

 

How getting married hasn’t affected her is the bit I can’t work out, because that would have jeopardised the flat, surely. 

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Someone with a brain and grandiose political ideas like Eileen should use her infinite leisure hours to find ways to help grassroots organisations make that a reality.

Then I would rather have her having tantrums on twitter and in general being her usual self. Her political ideas are terrifying and them becoming a reality would be like living in hell. Just to say one example of her supposedly political views: the woman is disgustingly sexist and I simply can't stand sexism, that is not contributing to society but poisoning it.

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Then I would rather have her having tantrums on twitter and in general being her usual self. Her political ideas are terrifying and them becoming a reality would be like living in hell. Just to say one example of her supposedly political views: the woman is disgustingly sexist and I simply can't stand sexism, that is not contributing to society but poisoning it.

 

 

I obviously wasn’t saying her political opinions should be implemented. I was saying that she’s objectively clearly not a useless person in the technical sense. She could do some good in the world if she wanted to.

But she doesn’t want to. She has no interest in grafting. Which is what I meant regarding her lack of a work ethic.

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To those trying to say that Eileen isn't on benefits and/or for an underlying health issue, go back to this article? 

 

I love how she says she is educated up to a doctorate level not that she has one. Misleading. 

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To those trying to say that Eileen isn't on benefits and/or for an underlying health issue, go back to this article? 

 

Gotta love the fact that she was able to hop on a plane and get housing and benefits by pure fluke of having an Irish passport through descent and ticking the right boxes in terms of vulnerability.

You generally aren’t entitled to anything without paying National Insurance for a few years and these days they try to fuck you out of anything, even if you’re entitled to it. I tried to sign on for JSA once and the guy tried every excuse he could think of as to why he thought my claim would be rejected and that I shouldn’t proceed.

I also applied for housing at one point and the council would have sooner let me live on the streets than consider offering me housing.

I’m strongly in favour of social welfare but this woman flagrantly gamed the system and spends all her spare time focusing on the political goings on of a country she abandoned.

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Julia made more than 500 videos. From now on she will start to invent stories. Nobody will know if is true or not.

Still there is so much more she could do. She could do a lot of videos about her music or music in general. What she wanted at first was to be a singer and songwritter, now that she has the viewers she has the chance to show her talent but instead she is copying people who can't sing or make songs and only speak about make up and clothes.

She could tell us about the creative process when she is making a song, if she starts with the music or the lyrics, how long it takes her to create a song, when she feels more inspired...

Also about music she could teach some vocal technique, a bit of theory, a bit of practice. She could play her songs in the piano while singing. Make covers of her favourite artists...

And not about music, she could tell us new things about herself or things that were never really explained in depth, like about her being buddhist. I would like her to explain how her love for clothes, cosmetic procedures and fancy way of life are compatible with material detachment.

Or about her vegetarian diet, why she hasn't consider becoming vegan (being her diet choice because of moral reasons), how is it compatible with having leather shoes and boots and how does she feel about Eileen saying she loves animals (while making a story on Instagram about euthanizing a street cat while having a stupid cat mask filter) and then eating everything as long as it's not green.

And those are just some examples!

 

I obviously wasn’t saying her political opinions should be implemented. I was saying that she’s objectively clearly not a useless person in the technical sense. She could do some good in the world if she wanted to.

But she doesn’t want to. She has no interest in grafting. Which is what I meant regarding her lack of a work ethic.

I know you were not saying that. I just imagined Eileen reading your comment and thinking "You know what? Tomorrow I start building my empire!" and the thought gave me shivers.

But you are right, because how can someone be supposedly so passionate about something and never actually do anything about it?

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