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Sakimichan


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I dunno guys. Why does it matter? She's still got a great deal of skill. I think Illya Whatever is lazier with the neverending parade of asian girl heads and I thin he's more well known outside of anime/game fans. 

 

I'm not judging I just kinda wonder what I'm missing with this one. 

 

Ilya should probably have his own thred to discuss the plagiarism issues. But at least from what I can see, he understands basic human anatomy and puts out consistently decent work. He just doesn't want to be original (correct me on that if I'm wrong I don't know much about the plagiarism drama woth him.) Sakimichan is extremely talented but has skimped on that talent for the sake of getting more money. And I honestly wouldn't care if she would just slow down and take her time so her stuff looks as good as it used to, regardless if she is drawing an epic fantasy battle or big tittied anime porn. 

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I dunno guys. Why does it matter? She's still got a great deal of skill. I think Illya Whatever is lazier with the neverending parade of asian girl heads and I thin he's more well known outside of anime/game fans. 

 

I'm not judging I just kinda wonder what I'm missing with this one. 

 

Whose Ilya? And most of us is just going off about her either being a "sellout" or is just giving her /constructive/ cristism. 

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I dunno guys. Why does it matter? She's still got a great deal of skill. I think Illya Whatever is lazier with the neverending parade of asian girl heads and I thin he's more well known outside of anime/game fans. 

 

I'm not judging I just kinda wonder what I'm missing with this one. 

 

I'm not gonna deny that Ilya does have same face syndrome and  likes drawing girls with short bobs. He obviously doesn't stray too much out of his comfort zone but his work isn't riddled with anatomical errors like Sakimichan's has gradually become. She's got skills obviously but it feels like her skills has regressed because everything she draws now seems to be for a quick cash grab. No one's gonna complain about her girls having average sized chest instead of balloons as long as they get to see some naked tits. Ilya's work is lazy but hers is just as lazy. Looking at her profile, every girl has the same face and the same body type. Her compositions also don't change much, pretty much the same thing as Ilya's neverending asian looking girls. Even her lingerie designs are pretty much the same set of bras/babydolls, panties and thigh highs. However you can still see Ilya post something different from time to time such as studies, landscapes and his promotional work. His profile is a lot more diverse than hers and I'd even say that he has more technique than her.

Another thing that also irks a lot of people is that it seems she doesn't want to aknowledge her mistakes when people, many who also pay for her work, point it out. She shuts them out by deleting her drawings and limiting her comments unless it's a crucial mistake like ZeroTwo's 6 fingers. Ilya isn't innocent either. People admitted to have lost interest in him and he did lose fans when people found out that some of his work were plagiarised, but the guy did apologise for that and took them down both on his page & his print shop and hasn't done it since. Sakimichan earns way more than the average person on her patreon alone and that doesn't even include her print sales at conventions. She can easily afford to take a break from her current plethora of inflated looking girls. I'm pretty sure that if she cut down her nsfw paintings to 50/50 to include her original paintings that she did years, she'd still earn a butt load of money because her old fans would go back to her anyways.

Whose Ilya? And most of us is just going off about her either being a "sellout" or is just giving her /constructive/ cristism. 

 

Ilya Kuvshinov, he used to go by kr0npr1nz. 

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Ilya Kuvshinov, he used to go by kr0npr1nz. 

 

Ooh, him. I have a love/hate relaionship with his art. 

I didn't know there was plagiarism controversies surrounding him. 

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I dunno guys. Why does it matter? She's still got a great deal of skill. I think Illya Whatever is lazier with the neverending parade of asian girl heads and I thin he's more well known outside of anime/game fans. 

 

I'm not judging I just kinda wonder what I'm missing with this one. 

 

Well it's the fact she has sexualized minors that's really grossing me out.  Specially when the shows have adults that are of age. 

I brought up Escher Girls earlier because that's what her art is right now and what it reminds me of. Even the guys and those whose gender I don't know cause I don't know the show that well (Someone mentioned in canon devil! someone was intersex so I have no clue what gender they use in show).

Sure it can technically look good with the coloring and such. But her refusal to think though the pieces so they'd make sense, like fixing sfw verisons so the nipples don't float away, hurts her.  Not to mention her art right now is just,lifeless compared to her old work. It's like one of those ads you'd see in the side bar advertising some random mmo with sexy women and pulsing boobs.  

Ilya Kuvshinov, he used to go by kr0npr1nz. 

 

Googling the guy I see art I've seen reposted over and over on like pinrest and by rpers too lazy to credit. Or like tracers. 

And there are a lot of heads. And a lot of places reposting it. Seems hes made it like his niche 

I wouldn't mind hearing about the allegations or seeing evidence. After all there is nothing saying we have to only talk about 1 artist on the forum. 

 

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Googling the guy I see art I've seen reposted over and over on like pinrest and by rpers too lazy to credit. Or like tracers. 

And there are a lot of heads. And a lot of places reposting it. Seems hes made it like his niche 

I wouldn't mind hearing about the allegations or seeing evidence. After all there is nothing saying we have to only talk about 1 artist on the forum. 

I'm gonna spoiler it as to not derail the thread too much

The plagiarism accusations came out during a time he used to post a lot of fan art that were copies of manga panels, anime screenshots and CGs. 

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I think some the main issues was 1. him not crediting them properly: saying "tribute to X artist/mangaka " instead of "referenced from" and 2. selling those prints.

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He did post a statement about the issue and has taken the fanarts down on his page and print shop.

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i try so hard to like her art all the time, before during this "era" of her art

https://www.deviantart.com/sakimichan/art/Raven-Starfire-684968674

every single piece she created I loved it it was so hard to point out issues compared to now, she expressed the emotions of the characters beautifully, the rendering of the clothing & background (when she drew them) all of that was what motivated me to work harder at my art, but now? its just so fanservice-y everythings girls with abnormally thick thighs, scarily small hands, legs that are too thin, and her recent one of that frog girl. At first I thought it looked ok but then you guys flipped it upside down.. its pretty justifiable since I doubt she would've found a reference, but as someone with such long experience with anatomy she should know if the girls damn torso is broken.


what got me into digital art was this piece
https://www.deviantart.com/sakimichan/art/spare-some-change-M-am-424494951
even further back then her art pieces had so effort put into them? every artwork told a story even if it was fanart,
NOW EVERYTHING IS SEX SEX SEX! THICC WAIFUS THICC WAIFUS!

this ahri piece?https://www.deviantart.com/sakimichan/art/Kd-a-Ahri-771944194

her titties didnt have to be THAT big?? shes made her thighs so big im surprised shes able to balance on those thin legs w/o them snapping??!

this dva piece?

https://www.deviantart.com/sakimichan/art/Cinematic-Dva-pinup-763178942

did her suit HAVE to be unzipped?? couldnt we have a lighthearted d.va piece like you usually would draw??

these were all nitpicks but the issues in them are so consistent in her recent artworks its so sad!

remember when she accidentally drew 6 fingers on her zero two bridal piece? yeah thats how you know sakimichan has now formed a mindset of quantity OVER quality, her patreon tier 3 was actually supposed to be a mini student tier (the $150 one) but you know why she cant make a class for those who cant afford $150? SHE HAS NO TIME!! she has to squish in nsfw pieces, nsfw versions of artworks, and create 3-4 pieces on top of that? Shes overworking


and her deleting the frog girl artwork on deviantart because people were critiquing her on it? I hope she doesnt ruin herself from all the compliments she gets from her patrons.

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i hope that i'm spoilering this right? of not i apologize because it is kind of OT. in devilman crybaby, as i can speak for this only as i haven't seen the original anime to full extent, human!ryo is never shown shirtless. however, in both original devilman as well as devilman crybaby, demon!ryo is intersex, meaning that he has both a penis and a pair of breasts, and neither can be ignored because satan!ryo is naked. it may be negative representation of intersex people to some's eyes, but at the end, satan!ryo is intersex and has a penis and breasts. sakimi ignoring that aspect of him is really nasty, plus she's drawn them nsfw. they're 16. many other artists drew satan!ryo anatomically correctly, many other artists drew satan!ryo and akira without making it sexual straight on. the fact ryo is intersex and has a pair of breasts doesn't mean that their (possible) ship is any less gay. but fujoshis have to be sated, right? plus, not all mlm art needs to be nsfw. especially if the ship is made out of minors. i kind of ranted but this subject especially makes me angry sksks and if i didn't spoiler right if a mod could do it for me id be rly grateful

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Seeing all these posts surprise me because Ive recently found out about these artists and they seemed good to be honest.  But after reading these posts, its pretty obvious that these 2 artists took advantage of their fans trust and started selling art that was flawed. Even though they were contacted about it, they ignored the critism and kept selling and charging like it was nothing.  

Last year I made my own thread for an artist I admired, that started doing the same thing.

As long as their fans don't notice their flaws, these artists will keep making money and even have support for what they're doing. 

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Not to mention that Sakimi put her two cents in on the kr0npr1nz drama when she herself got caught copying off of another drawing and had to later change it to a "reference" when she was called out for it. 

I dunno guys. Why does it matter? She's still got a great deal of skill. I think Illya Whatever is lazier with the neverending parade of asian girl heads and I thin he's more well known outside of anime/game fans. 

 

I'm not judging I just kinda wonder what I'm missing with this one. 

 

She sexualizes children. 

You want to say that she's skilled, fine, she is, she knows how to render. But none of that matters when she's making thousands of dollars a week drawing what is essentially child porn and getting away with it. Not counting her 'aged-up' pieces, I literally added each example of her drawings where she puts them on her patreon/gumroad whatever to the front page where she flat out draws characters who aren't even 17 years old either naked or having sex. The youngest is 14 years old.

And guess what? Instead of owning up to any of her mistakes, not even an "Oh sorry I drew an extra finger" or "I'm not satisfied with this piece but I don't have time to fix it" she flat out DELETES her posts and hides her comment sections. What's worse than not acknowledging your mistakes is attempting to hide them.

 

Which, speaking of, she deleted the Tsuyu from her gallery AGAIN. See what I mean? She hates when things don't go her way so she attempts to hide it. She's almost 30 years old but still acts like an angry teenager.

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Not to mention that Sakimi put her two cents in on the kr0npr1nz drama when she herself got caught copying off of another drawing and had to later change it to a "reference" when she was called out for it. 

Jfc, she did that? What drawing was this? 

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Jfc, she did that? What drawing was this? 

 

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The left is the original drawing from the official Okami artbook, the right is Sakimi's. It's still up on her gallery btw.

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I was pretty bored, so I tried to fix the picture but over time I noticed how many mistakes there were and now it is impossible for me to fix everything,  Sakimichan herself would have to rethink the whole concept.

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I could fix somehow Tsuyu's neck break, what bothered me the most was the background, what exactly should that represent? It's not a window, but it has curtains, it can not be a scaffolding, and how the hell does water flow. Had she just drawn a rainy weather, it would make more sense than that.

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I was pretty bored, so I tried to fix the picture but over time I noticed how many mistakes there were and now it is impossible for me to fix everything,  Sakimichan herself would have to rethink the whole concept.

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I could fix somehow Tsuyu's neck break, what bothered me the most was the background, what exactly should that represent? It's not a window, but it has curtains, it can not be a scaffolding, and how the hell does water flow. Had she just drawn a rainy weather, it would make more sense than that.

 

Maybe if Tsuyu was positioned to be hanging from the side it would work better for what Sakimi was trying to achieve? Putting her upside down is a challenge enough but she's trying to make her look right-side up at the same time which, unless you're possessed by the devil, is still physically impossible. 

So something like this?

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I mean it's much more plausible than trying to break her spine. I get that she's attempting to show off ass n' titties but come on pulling a Rob Liefeld isn't the way to do it.

The whole background doesn't make any sense at all to begin with. This whole drawing has a fuck ton of issues but the only way to fix any of them is to start from the bottom. 

Great edit btw :alpacalove:

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Maybe if Tsuyu was positioned to be hanging from the side it would work better for what Sakimi was trying to achieve? Putting her upside down is a challenge enough but she's trying to make her look right-side up at the same time which, unless you're possessed by the devil, is still physically impossible. 

So something like this?

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I mean it's much more plausible than trying to break her spine. I get that she's attempting to show off ass n' titties but come on pulling a Rob Liefeld isn't the way to do it.

The whole background doesn't make any sense at all to begin with. This whole drawing has a fuck ton of issues but the only way to fix any of them is to start from the bottom. 

Great edit btw :alpacalove:

 


The Spiderman pose would have been ideal for her work or at least a similar pose, she could still show enough ass and tits with it but it would not be so painful to stare at, even Ochako could fit in there if she wanted to show both.

I could not take her pictures seriously anymore when she started drawing her legs like chicken wings.

and thx :alpacaheadshake:

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