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Emilie Autumn (Updated June 21st)

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Next one: This nautical necklace for $90.

As usual, I'm not factoring in the cost of pen and paper. (Probably the only real effort this kind of jewelry making assembly requires. Obviously, assembly-type jewelry is not a bad thing and it gives a lot of normal people access to customizable accessories they wouldn't otherwise have. My issue is with charging $90 for something so simple to make with such cheap parts.)

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Anchor Bezel $4.49 for 16, $0.28 each rounded up from $0.280625

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Jump Rings $0.99 for 400, $0.001875 each but I'll round it up to $0.01 each for this exercise. She uses 3. That's $0.03

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Anchor Charm $0.98 for 10, $0.10 each rounded up from $0.098.

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Bail $1.35 for 15, $0.09 each

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Chain $3.71 for 10 m looks like a long necklace, so I'll say 24 in per necklace plus 2 inches for the dangle charm, so 26 in total. The cost of chain per necklace is $0.25. rounded up from 0.245 but please feel free to check my math!

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I see that she is also actually using a clasp on this necklace, so that's nice. Lobster clasp $1.97 for 100. $0.20 each rounded up from $0.197. Honestly, I could have found these for even cheaper, but who cares?

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Here is a tutorial to get the glazed paper in the bezel. Assume $5 for a bottle of mod podge or less if you want to use elmer's glue and water it down.

The tutorial links to the epoxy used. It costs $11.72.

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Epoxy and glue are a one-time cost, so the one-time costs for all of these necklaces total $16.72 maximum (less if you water down some elmer's.)

The total components cost of this $90 necklace? $0.95. It would cost her $17.67 to make the very first necklace, but less than a dollar after that.

Here are some examples of things with somewhat low materials costs that would be worth such a high markup: fine art ceramics (clay + glaze + kiln use = art), people who make fine knives from recycled metal such as railroad spikes and rusty shovelheads, and woodcarvers.

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All these examples have a common factor of adding a lot of time, skill, and care into creating them. These necklaces have none of those things. I am thoroughly disappointed in EA's choice to sell necklaces like this. I loved her music when I was younger. She was an inspiration for me to improve my own making skills and create things myself.

I couldn't find the rectangular bezel for the sold out limited edition one foot in front of the other necklace. I suspect that it was purchased a while back and the chinese manufacturers moved onto another design.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to find the chain and name plate for the bracelet, but I'll try. The issue is that she claims it's sterling silver with gold plate. Normally, that's called vermeil, but she's not calling it that in the description which makes me wonder if the silver plated with gold doesn't fit the normal vermeil description (explained in link). Any search for silver with gold plate will come up with random base metals with a choice of silver or gold plate. Even on my typical jewelry component site (firemountaingems is decent, rio grande if you're willing to spend for the real deal. Kinda telling to me that I can find all of EA's stuff on ebay from China. Not that cheap is necessarily bad, but the price does not even vaguely match the value of the piece.)

Anyways, let me know if I made a math error and I'll fix it. Thanks for reading my 3 posts in a row.

 

Edit 7/15: I'm actually having a really difficult time finding the correct blank bracelet components. Sorry. I'll try again later.

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Thanks for all of your work. I had seen some of the details on AliExpress, but never had it in me to lookup all of the stuff. Tbh all of the stuff she makes is literally what we did when we were 15-16 and just getting into DIY.

She could have rather made a tutorial series of making these with an option to buy a few made by her for reasonable prices. Hell, she could have made aN0thEr b0ok and add these as DIY content (even if there are tons of identical tutorials). Damn.. Even a book like that would seem more reasonable of a cashgrab.

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Damn I wish people would make a youtube channel where they take long topics like this and rehash it quickly xD  im gonna be reading catch up forever.  I haven't heard from her since like FLAG.

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Thanks for all of your work. I had seen some of the details on AliExpress, but never had it in me to lookup all of the stuff. Tbh all of the stuff she makes is literally what we did when we were 15-16 and just getting into DIY.

She could have rather made a tutorial series of making these with an option to buy a few made by her for reasonable prices. Hell, she could have made aN0thEr b0ok and add these as DIY content (even if there are tons of identical tutorials). Damn.. Even a book like that would seem more reasonable of a cashgrab.

 

NGL I would be totally into a reasonably priced craft kit.

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NGL I would be totally into a reasonably priced craft kit.

 

She could have written a story that incorporates crafting stuff to escape the asylum or as a parting gift to a dear character etc. Or make it in the style of The Secret - a treasure hunt (Byron Price), but by solving the puzzles you get more clues as to what you're crafting. A crafting kit+a poem with riddles.

Edit: LOL, so reddit reminded me about that treasure hunt she made ages ago that went nowhere and that she even referenced the older treasure hunt books. I had completely forgotten about that shit :D

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She could have written a story that incorporates crafting stuff to escape the asylum or as a parting gift to a dear character etc. Or make it in the style of The Secret - a treasure hunt (Byron Price), but by solving the puzzles you get more clues as to what you're crafting. A crafting kit+a poem with riddles.

 

I'd be even happier if she branched out and started using new themes. How many years now has she been 100% about asylum?

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I'd be even happier if she branched out and started using new themes. How many years now has she been 100% about asylum?

 

Meh, a theme that screams 1'm aN eDgY te3naGer is all she's capable off, I'm afraid. 

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I'd be even happier if she branched out and started using new themes. How many years now has she been 100% about asylum?

 

for about 10 years she started in '09

Meh, a theme that screams 1'm aN eDgY te3naGer is all she's capable off, I'm afraid. 

 

If she go back to Enchant Era or that Jane Brooks project she can show she has diversity other than just being a one note with her Asylum theme

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Meh, a theme that screams 1'm aN eDgY te3naGer is all she's capable off, I'm afraid. 

 

...she's 42

Would anyone care for a cost breakdown of the bracelet if it was made of vermeil vs gold vs gold plate boring metal or some combination of just a few of those? I could do it, but I don't want to get repetitive and bore you guys.

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...she's 42

Would anyone care for a cost breakdown of the bracelet if it was made of vermeil vs gold vs gold plate boring metal or some combination of just a few of those? I could do it, but I don't want to get repetitive and bore you guys.

 

Shes a 42 year old lie im pretty sure she been stuck at 42 for a while now she gotta be 48 

anyway  yeah if you are talking about that flimsy looking bracelet that looks nice she changing $55+ for

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Yes, I know she's in her forties and don't see how she's progressed in a creative way at all.. Or management.. Or anything for that matter.

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Yes, I know she's in her forties and don't see how she's progressed in a creative way at all.. Or management.. Or anything for that matter.

 

yeah it's funny my friend in high school introduced me to her years ago and introduced me to the pretty reckless the same year… and it's interesting to see tpr's evolving over the course of three albums, meanwhile has Emily even come out with anything new or inventive in the last, what, 7-9 years?

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yeah it's funny my friend in high school introduced me to her years ago and introduced me to the pretty reckless the same year… and it's interesting to see tpr's evolving over the course of three albums, meanwhile has Emily even come out with anything new or inventive in the last, what, 7-9 years?

 

10 she started her Asylum Era in 09

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Sorry if you are busy IRL but im still curious about that bracelet break down 

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Hello everybody. It seems this forum includes the only one active EA discussion right now. Even Wayward victorian confessions closed a month ago. The fandom is deader than dead. 

I'm as disappointed with Emilie as any of you. I won't even write much, we all see what she is doing. It's pathetic. I'll leave out all the moneygrab stuff she's doing to tell something else. We all know she destroyed her career due to her own stupidity. I think the worst thing she's done, career wise, was a mixture of a few things. One being sitting in asylum world forever. Second is that big time gap between FLAG and whatever she's pretending to be doing now. For almost a decade she's been doing absolutely nothing. I think she put too much of hope in those Devil's Carnival movies and Darren Lynn Bousman. From that point her ego has grown to intergalactic size. It seems she believed she's a great actor and that Hollywood is waiting for her. She was delusional enough to put all her faith in Bousman, believing he will help her make that damned Asylum musical movie. For all these years people were suspecting that she doesn't care much for him as a person and only stays around for obvious reasons. I was so painfully obvious that it hurt to watch. And i guess it backfired at her, cause it seems she had a falling out with Bousman a year or so ago.

I think a year ago she released that damned new album, Behind The Asylum, which is not exactly a new album, not exactly a proper EA record, not exactly a demo, which makes it even less relevant that I expected it would be. The response was nonexistent. It didn't even have a proper physical release, only a freaking mp3 download file, cause, in Emilie's own words, "who buys albums these days?" That of course was another primary mistake. That was her chance to grab money: a physical release. Collectors and morbid psychofans would buy the hell out of this, despite the weak content. In effect, nobody cares for that download which you can easily rip from the internet. But it's not even worth pirating it. Really. It seems everybody forgot about it in a few days after the "grand release". I think our mistress was rather shocked and apparently it didn't sell as she expected, judging by the instant influx of her new limited edition sales and signed Opheliac/books/vip crap sale. 

Changing the genre was probably her biggest mistake. I won't lie, we all know more than a half of her former fanbase was there simply for her mixture of goth/industrial/classical sounds, rock-like violin (which was always a playback, by the way) and her original looks. Now she dresses like mormon mom or a middle-aged lady, while desperately assuring everyone she's so "goth" on Instagram. A lot of people lost interest when she she started making musical inspired music. Not everyone likes musicals. Emilie's current music is only for people obsessed with musicals, but there's virtually nothing in it for people who liked industrial, classical or violin, which she never uses these days. And it's worth noting her musical tunes are pretty weak anyway. A lot of people still interested claim it lacks originality and all melodies are straight up ripoffs of most famous musicals. 

Another mistake is constant re-releases of that stupid book. She constantly redefines it and changes her own story. Who does that? She had, what, four/five editions, every each different from another? I have the newest paperback version and it's drastically different from 1st/2nd graphic edition. Massive portions of her diaries are deleted and the victorian part changed in some places. But the thing that was most attractive to fans, which is Emilie's own memories, are mostly thrown out or modified. Which kinda misses the point of an autobiography… 

Still, I think the dumbest thing she does is minimalising the importance of Opheliac. Now she claims she's globally known for Fight Like a Girl... yeah, right. In her biography, now she states she released Opheliac in 2007, not in 2006... Overall, she kind of downplays it all, i think she tries to back out of that Opheliac years and mindset. It's visible that she's ashamed of that time, that personality and especially her opheliac look. Which is really sad, if you ask me. She's grown up to be a complete antithesis of something she used to be.

 

If you want to know what she's doing these days… If you look at her instagram, she's mainly wandering around Broadway, as if in hopes that one magical day they notice her and ask her to become their newest star... It seems she's trying to do something with that dreaded musical, I think. Some fan talked to her recently and though she didn't want to tell everything yet, she claimed Emilie plans to do some musical warm-up shows this years… We shall see what exactly does that mean and if it happens at all… If you ask me, she's kind of trying to find the right sponsors, or make friends with Broadway people, to use and milk another person who'd promise to take her poor show to Broadway stage…  Meanwhile, i'd like to recomment one Tumblr blog that not only features all EA updates, but is mostly a wonderful archive of old and rare photographs. AND it features all of EA's lost journal posts she once posted at her forum:

www.bonnytymepyrate.tumblr.com

 

 

Check it out. Anyway, back in 2005 Emilie made a cameo in Skum of The Earth's music video. This videoclip was long lost and nobody from the fandom ever seen it, but now it's been found and available at Youtube. See the bonny tyme pyrate blog. It features goth Emilie at her best :)

 

 

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