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EAR/ONS has just been identified within the last day or so. I'm shaking because I'm so happy for this person to face up to the music for their actions! Such a prolific monster deserved to be discovered, even if so late.
Not trying to knock it, the inclusions of proof is what was mostly important. I just thought you needed a bit more structure to it. At one point you mentioned how Kenna "sporadically" bought a dress but I'm guessing you meant maybe spontaneously. (I'm pretty sure you said that however it's been an hour since I viewed but I picked it up, hope I didn't just misshear ) I know that you didn't want to just repeat everything that's already been done to death with exposing Kennna videos but one of the top comments on your video is that your viewers have no idea who she is. So I think laying it all out there in detail (again) still would have been a good idea. So many people obviously missed those other vids but made it to yours so it couldn't of hurt I feel.
Although it's good people aren't letting her actions go so easily I wish this video and similar others I've seen were a little better scripted and researched. They have places like here that have impressively recorded summaries yet they don't seem to be using them as well as they could.
I love it! I like the idea of new snowflakes too because they banner girls aren't as relevant atm. When I'm done with my pick hopefully I'll be able to compile them in a similar banner form like this. I thought so hard about what little references to add to my pictures but yours are genius. Margo holding the collar/chain Venis is wearing in current banner is amazing. Invadernoodles covered in food and grime is also excellent. I've been laughing so hard at this. If you have any more at any point please upload. Sorry I'd also give reputation but I ran out
I just wanted to give Venus the benefit of the doubt over this but the way she presented it all was as someone mentioned on the Kenna thread "passive aggressive" She straight up made up excuses for Kenna in that pinned comment under the video saying the drama was just for gossips sake and was overblown. Nope lol. Whatever gets you views I guess. Seems like plagiarizing is fine so long as the person doing it has a huge following, Venus? Nothing was exaggerated the proof is documented here and many other places. I assume the difference why Taylor stayed your friend was because she realized your mother was the issue behind the rumours, Kennas mother isn't the issue, she is. So why are you equating them at all? I was being as optimistic as possible about this whole thing. Whoops.
Do you think there is any way that you could expand on this a little more without letting her onto you? Is what she is encouraging moral/legal because "teen" is kind of a broad bracket... Given her interests and behaviour it immediately sounds worrying.
I don't know whether I would or not tbh, that's a good question. Kenna made that apology video and gave a lot of excuses and explanations to why she did what she did, soooo many people bought her saying this and promising she'd turn over a new leaf. Even many people on PULL decided to give her the benefit of the doubt after she released it. Maybe Venus was won over in the same sort of way? It's pretty naive of me but I like to think the best of Venus, I've given feelings on both sides, like I'm disapointed in what it means if she doesn't care that Kenna has had such drama but also trying to think of good reasonings to why she could have met with Kenna because I don't want to believe she'd not see her behaviour as an issue. Your point of the whole "Tell me who your friend is and I'll know why you are" would be true if they were actually friends. So far they have only met once, if Venus continued the relationship with Kenna I would agree even more with this point. For now it was just a one day meetup with someone who'll be back in the US before the next month. We'll find out more about this in the future... Speaking of the potentional Venus+Kenna friendship If I'm honest I never really thought tsuruko or Mikan.Mandarin gave me "good" vibes either.
Don't worry It isn't defending Kenna, more like thinking the best of Venus' intentions. I thought the same thing: Venus has always come across as really sweet and someone alone in the same area reaching out asking to meet up would be something she'd totally go for. Kenna and them had a good time and I'm sure the drama surrounding Kenna wouldn't interfere with that but still I just wonder if she knew at all about Kenna and whether she cares or not being around someone like that. Like you mentioned there's so many reciepts documenting the behaviour of Kenna and even a quick scroll threough her comments on IG can give most people an idea that she is a pretty controversial figure. I don't get how Venus wouldn't have checked this stuff out, regardless of how gossip affected her there's no doubt with Kenna, She's an adult with no weird stage mother hovering over her to perhaps be the man behind the curtain like in Venus' case. I like to believe that Venus would want to decide for herself because that's a really mature and kind thing for someone to do. I'm personally of the mind that Kenna having better influences in her life could be a great thing and perhaps Venus would be a person who could do that. I think people especially in the Kenna thread think that Kenna would have a negative impact on Venus and that it would be a bad idea for them to have met but there's more of a chance of nothing changing or of it even being a positive thing. I still have mixed feelings over the whole things because of how much we on PULL know about Kenna but still I don't expect anything bad to actually come from this.
So Venus met up with Simply_Kenna whilst she was on her vacation to Japan. I feel a little let down that Venus met up with Kenna. I like Venus very much and it's kind of a shame that she would want to spend time with someone who is so selfish and rude as Kenna is. I get that perhaps she wanted to make her own mind up about Kenna but just because someone is nice to you personally doesn't mean they actually are. I wonder if Venus was even aware of all the drama around Kenna anyway? I suppose Venus might not put much stock into internet rumours given her own experiences with them. Still Kenna is an independant adult who acknowledged most of the drama as having truth to it (even if she tried to worm her way ou of responsibility) so I wouldn't know how Venus could look past that. I'm thinking about whether or not Venus might meet up even more with Kenna since she still has a couple of weeks left there and has been regularly and desperately reaching out for other online personalities to meet up in Japan...
I remember the first time I heard of Sarah was after I noticed that freaking photo of her wearing the choker being reposted in a lot of places. I think hardly anyone would know Sarah as the first non nude playboy cover girl I think most would recognise her as the girl from that choker image though. (Maybe I'm wrong?) People were gushing about how cute/pretty she was and obviously about her eyes being different colours. Why on earth she decided to try so hard to oversexualize herself when that sort of photo got so much attention for her is confusing to me. The fact that such a huge amount of her fanart is using that pic for reference should be a HUGE clue to her that that image/style is what is most popular/iconic for her. I guess it's not hard to see that she must be super insecure but still, she kind of just ended up making herself way less marketable. As much as a big chunk of her followers are very horny people there are also some who are really offput by her recent OTT sexy image and so have lost interest. Not that it matters much though because in candids she hardly resembles the choker image anyway.
Speaking of the coloured contacts I used to really hate them especially years ago when I first noticed them being used by idols but I think recently the contacts look a little better quality and in videos can sometimes capture well. I still don't love them or even like them a lot but I see an improvement and feel less awkward from seeing them being worn, I think they should only be worn for MVs because editing and production will ensure that they work best and don't look like halloween costume junk. When I was younger and I first got into KPOP I was only a fan of boygroups and some girlgroups with a badass sort of concept but now I can't really stand that sort of thing and now listen to pretty much only cutesy girlgroups. I used to think the sickly sweet sort of sound and style was cringy but now I love it.
Although Kenna isn't a totally trustworthy gal I wouldn't be surprised if it happened as when I vistited Japan I went a coffee shop I ordered coffee and a sandwich but after I finished and were about to ask to pay the worker brought us dessert. I thought it was a mistake and said we hadn't ordered this and she told us it was a "gift" so IDK. That's a common problem with Kenna though, so many of her stories come across as either made up or definitely exaggerated.