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I think it'd be neat to have an introverted youtuber who can talk quietly to a camera and have good discussions. Ashley is definitely really smart, but I wonder if she feels embarrassed about it and feels like she has to hide it. Not that she needs to get rid of her entire youtuber persona, but I think dialing it back a notch or two would make her a lot more watchable. Honestly I WANT to like Ashley and hope her personality and content mature over the years.
Honestly buying a small 1 or 2 bedroom home in southern California can still be a small fortune, like $400,000+ unless she decides to go to a pretty bad part. I can't wait for her to buy a half million dollar home and claim it was all from "savings" and "hard work" from posting on youtube once a month for ~4 years. I wonder if the decor is going to change every 6 months when she does her biannual personality change.
Dude, I literally said "We should acknowledge black people for their important contributions to music" and you've just written me a damn essay about how inappropriate it is for me to bring up black people in a k-pop thread. Then you ended it with the good old "I can't be racist I have ~2 black friends~." I'm sorry but it's perfectly appropriate for me to bring up black people in a K-pop thread, especially in one about UNPOPULAR OPINIONS. Like I said, there is a lot of racism toward black people, both in Korea and in western K-pop fans. I never said it was aimed at anyone in this thread but you're acting like I've just called you and your mom racist. There is nothing wrong with people trying to have intelligent discourse about it.
Chill, I specifically said I was referring to youtube commenters when I was talking about black music. I wasn't attacking anyone in this thread and I specified that in my comment. My point is that a lot of k-pop fans, ~specifically teenagers on youtube~ want to sit there and talk smack about western pop, hip hop, and R&B without realizing most mainstream K-pop groups like BTS, Red Velvet, etc. are borrowing heavily from black music. If anything some of these fans are low key racist. If a black american woman made a sexy music video they'd turn up their nose at it but if a kpop girl group made a sexy video they'd stan it and call it empowering. I say we need to respect black music because I feel that so much culture has been stolen from black people yet most people don't give them any acknowledgment. Black people are treated with a lot of racism in Asia yet some k-pop stars rap, wear dreads, and act "hood" because apparently it's cool to act "black." The music industry has a lot to thank black people for yet they're rarely mentioned and that's why I'm here. I feel like you're annoyed that I've brought up black people in a K-pop thread?
Some people are saying stuff like "The awkward sex jokes and cringe content is just Ashley's personality" but like... I feel like it's not her personality, and that why it feels so awkward in the first place? There's youtubers who can talk about sex in a very tactful and respectful way. You feel as if it's natural coming from them and not something they forced themselves to do. It's like they're just a sexual person and they can talk about it without it feeling unnerving. But from Ashley I get this feeling that she's forcing herself to be someone she's not, and that's why it feels so uncanny. It feels like she makes herself be louder, she makes herself be more extravagant and wacky, she makes herself force in sex jokes because she thinks that's the only way to be interesting. It's like she's trying to mold herself into what she thinks a youtuber should be rather than just being her genuine self. If you watch Ashley's older videos she seems much more subdued. To be fair, there could be a lot of reasons - maybe she wasn't used to youtube, maybe she was a freshman still coming out of her shell, maybe she had to be quiet while filming in the dorms. But I can't help but feel she's a bit more down to earth than she presents herself on camera. Over the years you see her get more and more ~quirky~ and ~relatable~ and loud. Of course, this gets into the whole can of worms of all youtubers having a persona on camera and arguably none of them being "real." But I feel like youtubers can find that balance between being their true self and still showing their best side to a camera, and Ashley hasn't reached that yet? I have a feeling the mega-quirky, super-hyper, sexy-sailor-mouth Ashley isn't her genuine self and I'd like to see more of her genuine self. I think she would be interesting on her own without putting on this big act for the camera.
I'm about to have a brain aneurysm because of how fucking dumb my apartment-mates are being. It is WEDNESDAY of FINALS WEEK. But they are done with final exams so they assumed everyone was done with final exams. So they invited a friend over to drink wine and talk really loudly. Except I have TWO FINAL EXAMS tomorrow and I am studying right now. I went into the living room to ask them to not drink here, but they're still getting ready and talking super loudly. They have about 10 minutes before I go into their room and yell at them to either be quiet or get the fuck out of our apartment. (At least bless my roommate... she is an angel and she is fed up with their BS too...) UPDATE: My roommate and I have to wake up early tomorrow. We are going to blast loud music to wake up our apartment-mates. We have always tried to be kind and discuss things with them but they refuse to respect others. So we are giving them a taste of their own medicine.
100% correct, R&B is from black people, hip hop is from black people, while EDM and pop may not be specifically black they certainly have a lot of black elements, like when they borrow rhythms from jazz or R&B. Most of K-pop is black/western music repackaged with ultra-high budget music videos, attractive idols, and maybe a bit of Korean flair to the sound. There is nothing wrong with liking K-pop at all but I don't like when people act like Koreans invented the genre(s). Even worse, I don't like when people do stuff like listen to K-rap but call American rap "trashy" or "not as good." Not accusing anyone in this thread of doing this, but I often see it in K-pop Youtube comments. For example: comments like "Wow! This rap is so good and cute! I'm glad it's not trashy and sexy like American rap!" WRONG. K-pop is sexualized as fuck. Maybe if we went back to the 50's-70's or so K-pop would be more "Korean" but it's certainly been very "western" ever since Korea had access to western pop and R&B. PLZ don't come after me for this comment, this is not a roast of K-pop fans, I like K-pop too, but let's pay our respects to the African Americans who crafted most of the genre even if we don't personally listen to them. BTS wouldn't exist in the same way without black artists like Tupac whether or not you like it.
Some people think it's gossipy and rude to discuss whether idols have had plastic surgery but I hope we discuss it until the end of time. #1. Yes, your fav probably had PS. They weren't born with the V-shaped jaw and tall nose bridge. You probably wouldn't even recognize them pre-PS. There's nothing wrong with PS but let's not act like most people are born like that. It was a talented surgeon who created that face. #2. We don't perfectly beautiful asian men and women to feel there is something wrong with them for not being born with double eyelids or other features uncommon in asians. Most kpop stars looked like run of the mill asian people before PS. Kpop can give unhealthy beauty ideals.
Ughh I'm in somewhat of a related situation. My school offers free health insurance (costs ~$800 a semester) if you fill out your financial aid information by a certain time. They offered me the free health insurance and I already have my dad's health insurance, but I was like, more free insurance that I can use if I get sick on campus? Why not! Halfway through the semester the school emailed me they're taking away my free health insurance because they didn't realize I had a certain type of financial aid. Now they want me to pay it. I'm like wtf? I already have insurance and I only took this because you said it was free. I'm going to the financial aid office to yell at them today and try to get them to take away the cost.
Why can't all these idol agencies realize fans want TRANSPARENCY? When idols disappear for months on end with no explanation, fans' trust in the group and agency immediately goes down by 500%. People begin jumping to the worst conclusion - "This member has been missing for 2 months, I guess the group is going to end soon." The group starts getting more negative press than positive press. There starts being news articles like "(Idol) spotted in (country that's not Korea) - are they done with Kpop?" Just be honest... If the idol is injured or depressed be honest so the fans can respect the idol's wishes and allow them to recover. If they are rethinking their contract to pursue acting or something else just say so. But don't leave fans in the dark. There's been so many idols randomly disappearing for months on end this past year. But look at JYP and Mina - everyone feels sad and worried for Mina, but JYP was honest about where she was from the start. So everyone is okay with Mina's absence, just waiting for her to get better if she can. Seems to me like I haven't seen a lot of news about Mina, which is good, we know where she is and it's none of our business to stalk her or harass her now. But if an idol just vanishes with no update from the company everyone will start to speculate.
Tbh, I wouldn't be shocked if she enrolled in college at this point. Deciding to take a college class in the USA is a step BACK from moving to a whole ass new country for a year. We already know she bases her life decisions on what she thinks will make an aesthetic picture and college offers plenty of aesthetic pictures like libraries, sitting on campus with a book, coffee cups next to textbooks, and so on. Wasn't she already using a college campus in Japan as a backdrop a few months ago? Furthermore, Kenna has... pretty much no life aside from being super rich. I can see her jumping around every year for the next several decades, trying to figure out what kind of purchases she can make to make her happy. First it'll be moving to a new country, then just a new state, then roleplaying "college student" for a year, then "opening" a "cafe" and so on. I'm not sure if she'll ever realize happiness isn't something she can purchase for herself and photograph, it's something you find from making friends, finding meaning, discovering yourself and so on. I kind of doubt after the Japan trip she's just going to sit happily in California, it's going to be onto the next money-wasting venture. But her enrolling in college just for the aesthetics of it doesn't sound too far-fetched to me. Like others said, she'd probably take astronomy so she can be a ~speshul star girl~ or something.
If Kenna goes to college she's going to be one of those wealthy kids who only take 1 or 2 classes a semester so they can chill and only spend like 3-4 hours a week actually learning and the rest of the time goofing off and acting like a high schooler. If you have unlimited funds there is no reason to graduate college in 4 years and find a job, you can just party and end up dropping out of college. I predict she'd complete 1-2 semesters, get bored, and move onto something else. Kenna has a shitty work ethic and I kind of doubt her ability to even finish 1 essay or study for 1 exam at this point. She's too lazy to even do fun things, like go outside in Japan and try something new. No way can she study over a several months period. (PS: this is not a roast of anyone who is taking 1 or 2 classes because they are a parent, have a disability, have a full-time job, etc. I'm specifically roasting people like Kenna who have their lifestyle fully funded by their parents and are lazy and have a poor work ethic. She has every resource available to her to graduate college but if she does go she will just see it as a photoshoot for Instagram.)
I don't think anyone has a problem with Ashley having sex, it's just that most of us find her constant awkward sex jokes to be distasteful and unfunny. It's kind of the same thing as poop/potty jokes in little kid's shows... It's just not that funny and not necessarily something we want to hear about all the time. There's tasteful ways to talk about sex but it always seems so forced and awkward when Ashley does it. She acts like the jokes are so "random" and thrown in at the last second but we all know she re-records things over and over to get them perfect, so it feels really out of place. And yeah, I like people being able to wear what they want, but there's a limit. Wearing something that shows off some leg is one thing, but if your underwear are popping out of your clothes if you bend over or move more than 1 cm, it is probably too short for public and should maybe be reserved for around the house. The fact that she chooses to edit in all these clips where she has to blur out her ass makes me think she wants us to see it. Disliking awkwardly shoehorned in sex jokes or not wanting to see someone's underwear in public is not the same as "slut shaming" in my opinion.
(Hope this isn't unsolicited advice, this is just what helped me ) I used to be the same... one of the most important things for my whole life has always been my academics and I would get anxious/depressed when I run out of things to do, like when it's winter break and I have no school. I wouldn't know what to do anymore. The best thing for me was to just find non-school things that make me happy and put time into them every week. You can't let yourself feel guilty for having fun. If you can, always take time to do something that relaxes you, whether it's playing video games, trying a new coffee place, reading comics, etc. You will be so much more successful in whatever you're pursuing in life if you learn how to recharge when you need it. If you're doing stuff 24/7 your productivity will go down more and more. Successful people know how to take time off when they need it. Also heck anyone in your life who makes you feel like you aren't doing enough... Make sure to pursue your own vision of success at your own rate, not someone else's. If you are doing your best and working hard you are on your way to a great future.
Is it just me or are Kenna's only real friends the ones she's known since her childhood? They are probably accustomed to her from knowing her her whole life and are able to put up with her toxic personality. She doesn't seem like she's been able to maintain a relationship with another youtuber for more than a few weeks, after completing collaborations they all get away from her pretty quickly. She posted some videos of her hanging out with her language school classmates but they've all probably moved back home or are doing something else now. And for all we know, she was just invited to social outings just so the entire class could be included, not because people specifically wanted her there. Being invited to school hang-outs doesn't necessarily mean you have an actual connection or friendship with anyone. I predict her moving back to California at some point because the small number of friends and family who actually put up with her are there. She is not going to be able to survive in another country or state because she's not kind enough to make new friends. If she wants to make a social circle anywhere new she needs to examine how she's been treating other human beings her entire life.
I like a lot of Hyuna's music and I respect her as a person, but ughh I hate how they do her makeup. The makeup they usually give her makes her look really sick.
They usually give her this look with red/pink eyeshadow smudged all around her eyes and the mascara kind of messed up. She kind of has a party girl persona so I assume it supposed to be the "I partied all night and just rolled out of bed and showed up in the studio" look, but to me, it looks like she's recovering from a really bad cold because the pink makeup makes her eyes look swollen and sick. I think she looks much prettier with her normal makeup like this:
AGAIN this is not me dissing Hyuna as a person or artist, I just don't like how they do her makeup.
@ The h3h3 guy: In my opinion a lot of white men are angry and feel threatened by women who are attracted to K-pop because it shatters their view of white traditionally masculine guys being the only attractive ones. Yes, short, slender, Asian men who have pretty hair colors, sing and dance, and wear makeup and extravagant outfits can be attractive to straight western women. Get over it, fragile white masculinities.
Jfc reading her "horror story" made me feel like I was having a stroke. The more I read the more lost I was. I still don't know what the story is about? Does the person live in a cursed house where glass things always break? Why did the glass vase break, why was it one week ago, why did it cause the coca cola to break, I just --- It reminds me of this old indecipherable meme. The more words you read the less it makes sense.
A lot of time I'm more attracted to the non-visuals of groups rather than the visual. I always like people with unique looks more than someone who just has a conventionally attractive "perfect" face. I think things like unique eye shapes, slightly crooked noses, and so on are charming rather than ugly. Like not to dish on Twice's Tzuyu but she just looks boring to me. She looks "pretty" to me and nothing more. A lot of the other members have interesting facial features, like Nayeon's bunny teeth and chubby cheeks, and I find them far cuter/more interesting to look at than Tzuyu. Tzuyu just looks like what you'd expect a visual to look like. (Not trying to roast Tzuyu as a member of Twice, this is just my opinion on her appearance.)
It makes me really sad but Red Velvet probably peaked in popularity with Bad Boy, which is pretty different from their usual sound and not something that's going to come back. From now on out I expect them to get maybe 20 million - 50 million views on their videos until they retire to solo careers, which is still a lot of views but they aren't experiencing the massive fame they once had It's too bad but I know me and other fans are still loyal and enjoy all of their new music.
Kenna is shutting down everyone's questions on Japan because she's humiliated and wants everyone to forget it. She knows perfectly well that she achieved NOTHING worthwhile in Japan aside from wasting some of her fortune and a whole damn year of her 20's (which is a decade where most people achieve something great with their life.) She is trying to rebrand her Japan detour from "Moving to my new HOME! I'm going to show you guys so much content and get business deals! I'm staying here permanently!" to "It was a spiritual journey y'all. It was for me and me only. It's none of your business, quit asking" so she doesn't have to come out and say "I fucked up and also lost tens of thousands of dollars." For the next several years she is going to act pissed and rage at her fans when they bring up Japan in a Q&A because she's embarrassed that she was yet another useless privileged youtuber who completely misunderstood Japan. I can already see her 2020 insta: every time someone asks her about Japan she's going to post a bitchy "meme" of her rudely shutting down her fans. Here Kenna I made you an example:
Okay, Kenna, you moved to Japan for "you." Then answer one simple question for all of your followers, because none of us understand, neither your fans nor your antis: What did you get out of Japan? You failed to learn the language to a useful level. You disliked the food, seasons and holidays. You didn't network or make friends with a single Japanese person, only other white youtubers. You didn't travel around or see anything new. You barely tried any uniquely Japanese activities. So you went to Japan for "you." Okay, did you find a single thing of meaning there? Because to all of us it looks like you went to sit in an Airbnb, speak english, and bitch about how Japan isn't the same thing as America. Which part of that is wrong? Inb4 we just never hear of Japan again because Kenna knows perfectly well this is a failed chapter of her life and a waste of $30,000 or however the fuck much it costed.
That's literally what I said in my comment but thanks Also the point of my comment was that things like "girl crush" aren't in style because the 50 year old male producers are feminists and want to spread a good message, it's because right now "feminism" is something we can commodify and sell to young girls with open wallets. Kpop has realized that women are a bigger marketplace than men and that's why there's suddenly no more super sexy girl groups. AOA went from bootylicious to fierce gunslingers when they realized that's where the $$$ is in 2019. You can still view it as a good change but it's still just capitalism at the end of the day, unfortunately not people trying to spread a wholesome message through music.