Hi all, I paid the server bill for the month so the site can be archived, sorry for the mess, didn't realize there'd be such an uproar. The site's in read-only mode. Happy archiving. Here's a link to a user-made PULL discord server: https://discord.gg/vZFEm75
[OT reply to 츄 but I haven't lived in Canada in over 20 years and I still have my citizenship, so it doesn't just go away. I WOULD need to jump through some hoops in order to get a Canadian passport again, but I highly doubt that Simon or Martina have Japanese or Korean passports, so i assume it will be much easier for them to go back.] now back to the topic at hand. I think moving to a country and just flat out refusing to learn the language and integrate is shameful, especially if you are a self-employed youtuber with the time, money and resources to do so. I live in a big city in America, and there are many neighborhoods and communities where people just don't speak english. Oftentimes it's multigenerational households where the younger generations have to support the older generations who can't communicate. Oftentimes the older generations who came here were fleeing oppression in their own countries, and didn't have the funds or the time to learn english. I have sympathy for people in those situations, and hope I never have to flee to a country where I cannot communicate. It just reeks of privilege and even colonialism to me when white english speakers move to places and then just refuse to learn the language or integrate at all because they know hat the country and the people will cater to them. As someone pointed out earlier, South Korea, as well as Japan and probably any other country you can think of, have strong immigrant (i REFUSE to use the word 'expat') communities where a person can "get by" without ever making an effort. No matter how many english speakers you know in your community, if you move to a place and refuse to learn the language, you are GOING to be relatively isolated. you are not going to be able to live as freely or as openly as you could if you could actually communicate wtith the people who's country you are living in. What were Simon and Martina fleeing? What was really so important, other than their egos as qUiRkY white people showing off how COOL their lives are in Asian countries? And again, just operating under the presumption that they never made an effort: Why did they not learn Korean, and why did they not learn Japanese? It really just feels like they didn't give a shit. They filmed all these videos where they were excited about Korea and then about Japan, but if they really had a genuine interest in these countries, wouldn't they have fucking TRIED?
but i feel like the two of them have always been isolated together, way before covid. cant speak the language where they're living, don't have their own friends, etc. that level of codependence is not good for anyone.
Personally, my assumption that they never learned korean was not based on one video form 2013. it was based on.... everyone of their videos i've ever watched where they've struggled with 1) ordering food 2) reading korean 3) interacting with anyone korean at all (which is super rare. they usually only interact with eachother or people who worked for them). if they were so concerned about people thinking they didn't speak korean, maybe instead of just saying "we actually CAN speak korean" they could have... idk???? made a video??? where they just??? spoke korean to each other?? that sure would have been some solid proof. i know plenty of people who moved to south korea (and other asian countries) to work as english teachers and not knowing how to speak a word of korean. simon and martina moved to south korea... to be english teachers. no korean required. usually they are set up in bigger cities and towns so that if they aren't interested in learning the local language, they can get by just fine. and then the fact that they moved to japan and NEVER LEARNED JAPANESE EITHER. they're big loud idiots and i hope it hits them one day that being white and living in asia doesn't make them special or interesting or good. if you don't have a personality outside your spouse and the place you live, maybe you need to stop hashtag building ladders and start looking inward.
Tati tanked her own career when she went after James last year, and now she's trying to claw her way back into relevance by blaming her own shitty behavior on a disgusting racist mess and a white supremacist who probably has dirt on her. if she wanted to take shane and jeffrey to court, she should just do that. no need to make this fucking video where she talks about GOD and PRAYER and is even wearing like, a religious icon on her necklace (which, please note, she's never worn before), and talks about how SHANE made her make the video and YOUTUBE made her take it down. Thing is, I think even if Tati never made the Bye Sister video, TatiBeauty STILL would have flopped. She just needs to stay in her own fucking lane and get comfortable with the fact that people are sick of her, too. Like, Jeffrey, James and Shane are all fucking awful people in their own right, but that doesn't mean i'm suddenly on tati's side either.
idk it sounded more like she was just name-dropping the concept OF childhood trauma, like how she and everyone else uses "mental health" as a buzzword, for the sake of seeming "relatable" and worthy of sympathy.
oh, i mean i was just referring to her general rude and shitty attitude towards her sister any time she comes up. i feel like she's leaning hard into superiority to temper the fact that she's probably hella jealous of her sister who is beautiful and talented and not fake as fuck like Annabelle is. mostly just speculation on my part from all the cat creature and pyper blue stuff i've watched over the years.