I have to give it to her, that was actually a really good video with really good advice. I really resonated with Claudine's experiences and advice because I struggled with a lot of the same things going to Northwestern in terms of dealing with identity having to start from scratch building a friend group, we even had a similar major and focus. But watching the video, I also got some insight into Joan and somethings that explain and also confound some of our complaints about her. Her caring less about her GPA once she got into college just highlighted what I've observed about her in that she is the type of person who will do what she has to in order to just get over the hurdle to where she wants to be, but once she is there she gets complacent and loses drive. Her channels took a dip in quality of content once she built up a stable audience where she could do Youtube full-time and buy her luxury goods. I still don't get how you can be a humanities major and have such poor language and communication skills when every humanities field requires you to take abstract ideas and make them concrete and digestible to other people. Maybe she is better at communicating in writing? But it is doubly confusing because she said she always wanted to do something in broadcasting, so... The other thing that she brought up in the video is something I've picked up on for awhile now in her other content: when she talked about crying like every night the majority of her time in college about her lack of direction. All the times she's talked about being stressed, I felt it had to do with something along those lines rather than just having too much to do. I feel like she is aware that her content is stagnant but she doesn't know what to do. She also puts a lot of stock in status and how others perceive her. Notice how she went right away to announce Claudine went to Harvard and implied that Claudine's advice would be valuable because of that fact. The constant flaunting of her designer brand goods is just to show how well she is doing at this path that is very non-traditional and not very respected. People don't think of Youtube as a "real job," especially what Joan does with it. And when you go to these top-rated schools, there's an expectation that you do something "impressive." I sympathize though, because it is really hard to find your way after college, especially if you aren't going into something like medicine or law that has a very clear and linear path.
The irony in this girl STILL on about this petty drama is that most people on here took those initial comments with a grain of salt and even defended her. The tide didn't turn until SHE decided to blow it up and basically confirm what they said about her, in fact she's actually shown herself to be WORSE than what was said. And didn't she accuse us of having no lives and being miserable because we are to interested in what she does? Girl, do you know how much energy you have to put in to have a shifting opinion/debate on whether you are going to drag someone you supposedly could care less about? The energy to film multiple long ass livestreams, do edited videos, go on Twitter rampages for 3 MONTHS about shit that happened like 3 years ago? Has anyone seen or heard from Karen since she spilled that tea? No. Disour only comments on Kennie when she talks about him. Any of her followers that she sends our way by constantly referring to this thread can easily see for themselves that these people she is so pressed over are not wasting the same amount of energy on her. And how much longer are her viewers going to watch her rant about random people they don't even know? Kennie, the pathological vindictiveness is not a cute look. But continue to dig that ditch if you must.
The only youtubers I would actually watch a video from about this situation are 2minjongkey (Cortney and Jasmine) because as the name shows they are diehard SHINee fans, have spoken out about these things before, and Cortney has talked about her own struggles with mental health. Plus, they are probably having a difficult time with this news and are dreading having to address this. Afro minx too because she's intelligent and would be respectful. But that's it. Kennie and all the other kboos can kindly keep stfu.
Let's hope he just leaves it at this comment, which wasn't bad (but wtf with mentioning the "close loved one who knew Jonghyun personally," that was unnecessary and is like when people start talking about people who passed like they had a much more personal connection than they actually did).
It's been awhile since I've had anything to say about Joan, but her talking down to people lately about how that spend their money and where irks me. Like was said before, this new "quality over quantity, I only shop designer, edgy chic" schtick is a recent development, because she was looking like a Gap ad back in the summer and before. She isn't a discerning shopper either and doesn't try to get the most value out of her money. If she is going to invest in designer items, she needs to invest in bags, shoes, coats, dresses, hell even a wallet, and not cotton-t-shirst, caps, and belts. She literally exposed herself with that "once I realized that I owned the exact same hat as dpr, I wanted to wear it more." She's all about signaling status and seems to put all of her value and worth in her ability to blow money on expensive things. I think her friends only put up with her because she isn't malicious or consciously trying to put them down, she's just not self-aware enough to realize how she sounds and comes off. I mean her personality is a turn-off to me where I wouldn't go out of my way to hang out with her unless we were going to be in a group with other people (but not like Eddy or Coco). But when you think about it, everyone she hangs out with do seem to limit the amount of time they spend with her.
For real though, she always finds a mall and spends 90% of her time there! Malls look the same everywhere with basically the same tenets (like did she really need to go to a Sephora). Why can't she find a local retailer and go there or hang out in cool district. Or atleast find the equivalent of a 5th Ave./Rodeo Drive/Michigan Ave. so at least there is a sense of place while she goes from one international brand store to another.
Look y'all, no one is perfect and everyone has their problematic moments because we live in an effed up world and you can't be totally immune to internalizing stuff that is pervasive, so I'm not going to start indicting people based on who they are loosely affiliated with, but rather based on their actions and how they conduct themselves. We also do not know all of the dynamics of these "friendships" (a lot of them are clearly for business purposes, plus people generally don't distinguish between true friends, those they are just friendly with, and acquaintences) So people who insert themselves to defend bullshit like this (Miles, Soju with the Kyla mess) I take issue with because that is a direct endorsement. And sometimes, a public call out is just not appropriate especially on YouTube where it can easily call more problems than it is worth. Like while I side-eye people like Joan who just ignore this stuff, I also understand why they don't make a big deal and weigh into stuff that doesn't involve them.
Woojung is problematic by himself and I now understand how Eddy could be roommates with him. According to Joan, she met Eddy through Ivan, which had me worried when I started to get into him, I was like "please don't be an ass." But he had me when he said Friends gave he nightmares because there were no POC in it, then it was just up from there. His videos may be a little boring, but at least he is a good person and will actually still have a career beyond YouTube.
I REALLY HOPE that Miles is about to read Eddy, because if he doesn't a stays cozy with him, he's lost all credibility as well. ----------- Those comments on the video (and him favoriting all of them) is just so sad and gross. It's cultish.
I really can't with his trifling ass. Boy, if it were not for people literally putting their lives on the line challenging gender norms and fighting for minority rights (both for your race and sexual orientation) you would not have ANY of what you have because NO ONE would be sponsoring a gay dude wearing makeup and openly thirsting for some dude's dick. YouTube would not give you a platform. You wouldn't have the privilege of your American citizenship that allows you to flounce around all over the place without a care in the world. Someone needs to cancel and collect him. Ugh, let me collect my chill before this job interview so I can further my real career helping to make a difference and change the status quo.
I wasn't excusing how she acts on social media though? Like my comment was not meant, in anyway, to defend her behavior. I basically said she grew up poor and is bitter and insecure about it which is why she tries to brag about how much coin she gets and how rich she looks. I only brought up her sad attempt to come for Disour being financially stable (which he himself confirmed) as evidence of her actually being jealous of him not having to struggle the way she probably did. I also think the list of questions she had to Google was a failed attempt at humor on her part and that she knows full well the answer to those questions (the last one about oppression pretty much confirms that).
Megan was not that flat chested and I don't even think her boobs are even a big as in the after picture, because when she first said she got them done, I hadn't really noticed until she said it. They exaggerated those photos big time.