Okay I died in her new vlog when she did her "signature" scan into the metro shot, except her card wasn't scanning through the case so she had to stop and take her phone case off and she was so annoyed. Why leave the shot in Joan? It's such a weird shot anyway and so inconvenient. The one thing I give Joan props for is not being desperate for a man, and she doesn't seem jealous or bothered that a good chunk of her friends (at least the ones in the States) are paired up. And she's 26 so I'm sure people are starting to get on her about settling down. Some people choose to be single rather than be attached to prove their worth to other people. Joan also seems like someone who has high standards and wouldn't just date anybody. I find it funny her fans would ship her with Moma like they aren't...compatible if you know what I mean.
I mean she only lived in Korea for 2 years as a preschoolers befor going back to the U.S. and then having to speak English in school (which you spend more of your waking time at school away from home) so it makes sense that she wouldn't be that advanced in regards to vocabulary. Sorta OT/slash not really a critique:
Exactly, after the counterfeit culture video my suspicions about her not actually buying this stuff from the stores were upped. Like she never shows herself going into the stores and gawks at the prices when she goes to like Gentle Monster or that Acme store that's high priced but at a lower price point than Gucci or Burberry. She also just links to someplace that carries those brands like Bloomingdales or Nordstrom, but not where she actually bought them. And the stuff just randomly appears, she never does an unboxing. There is just no way she can actually afford all of this stuff with the frequency she buys it. It would also explain why the stuff looks cheaper than what is shown like the Dionysus bag looked off to me. They are good knock offs though if they are because you really can't tell at first glance.
Joan is very insecure about Youtube being her job because she always makes comments that undercut it as a legitimate career, like that one time she was with Ivan and said whenever she goes back to LA she mostly hangsout with Ivan because they don't have "real jobs" unlike her other friends. In one of her videos when she explained how she ended up in Korea, she said that when she was graduating, she applied to dozens of different jobs and got rejected by all of them, then ended up with the radio gig off Craigslist then just started a Youtube channel as like a last resort. I think she very much wanted to be working for a media company or something with more cache. I know what it's like though. I'm really self-conscious about having a little admin job when most of my peers have these super interesting jobs with big companies, reporting, or launching startups. It feels like I went to a prestigious school for nothing. Yeah I didn't think about the shirt being a fake (I didn't watch the video). I doubt Joan's shirt is a fake because in that haul she did, she sounded super guilty for having bought it and worked overtime to justify the expense which I don't think she would have done if it was fake. I however have been suspicious that a lot of these items are fake or super discounted because there is just no way she could afford these items at the frequency she buys them with her income. And yeah, she never does an unboxing and never films going to the store, she just ends up with them. She also made a point one time, I think with the Gucci Backpack, to show the authenticity card, which she hasn't done with anything else. The items also look really cheap/slightly off. This video was pretty good. The lack of designer brands opening stores in Korea could explain why she always is doing duty-free shopping or getting these items abroad. Joan is also a major conformist probably because she lives in Korea, raised by Korean parents, and apparently even in the states only socializes with other Korean/East Asian Americans. She's not very creative which shows in her style and content. EDIT: Mess, I was trying to get rid of the video and deleted the patrickstar's quote which the following is responding too.Since all three are Youtubers, I don't think they are genuinely friends and are using each other for exposure. Amy has a smaller base than Joan, who is smaller than Jenn, so they get exposed to a wider audience. In Jenn's thread it was mentioned how she's trying to capitalize on her Korean background and her interactions with them seem to always highlight being Korean (always going out for Korean food which Jenn just can't go without, letting Joan call her "unnie," speaking in Korean, etc.). Amy and Jenn's channels are also better in comparison to Joan's so there's that too. I could see Jenn and Joan maybe legitimately being friends because they are both pretty shallow, but I just can't see Amy actually wanting to be close friends with them.
I've been watching Amy's videos, and I don't understand how she can hangout with Joan, she has so much more depth and puts out better stuff. In that vlog, when she was in the car with Sharon and made a comment about how she is hard to get a hold of "because [she has] a job," and Sharon was like "you do too" and Joan's like "I'm in Korea!" I've said before that Joan doesn't see Youtube as an actual job that you have to put effort into and it shows. These vlogs are a mess. Joan is in two of the largest metro areas IN THE WORLD, yet spends all her time in the same malls and 5 cafes. Out of all the interesting places she could explore in LA over 2 months she spent all of her time in Century City and then generic strip malls in the suburbs. And why did she bother going to that convention in Dallas and learning editing techniques from Arthur when she is not going to do any of it? Was she just taking notes for Abe? I wonder what it will take for her to get her life together and some direction? She's really hit a plateau and is just treading water at this point. EDIT: That q2han picture is the accurate value of that shirt. Maybe Joan actually thrifted it and lied like she got it from the actual store? Otherwise, she looks straight foolish blowing hundreds of dollars on a shirt ultimately marked down to $5.
She wears these items obsessively to justify blowing money on stuff she KNOWS is overpriced crap. It's really sad at this point how blinded she is by the labels and how she has no identity that comes from within herself. Like if you are uncomfortable about the price of something and have to make justifications for your choice, THEN DON'T BUY IT! If you want to invest in high end clothing, learn what and how to properly invest in designer pieces that will give you the most value for your money. She also needs to broaden her horizons beyond Instagram and Blackpink's Closet for fashion influences so she can really understand how style works. Does she read fashion magazines, or history of fashion/art/design books? I get a lot of inspiration and learn how to put different colors and patterns together just by consuming a lot of art and media from all over the place and across time periods. With all the money she blows she could probably afford a session with a personal stylist to help her get the look she is going for. But considering how she doesn't take input from anyone, it may not be worth it.
Have y'all ever seen that Dane Cook joke about Karen, the friend in the group nobody really likes and everyone talks about behind her back, but are all "Hey Kare, sup Kare!" to her face? Joan is Karen (but a lite version because I don't think her friends like HATE her, but...)
I grew up in Miami with a lot of second and third generation Hispanics and I noticed if they primarily lived and socialized within their ethnic community with a lot of non- or poor English-speakers, they picked up a lot of the same poor grammar. Joan is second generation based on her parents speaking primarily Korean, and seems to have only primarily socialized in the Korean/Korean American community in LA. Obviously at school she would have to speak and learn in English and you spend more time at school than with your parents, but if no one at home can help you with your English homework and reinforce proper grammar, you're not going to be great. And I've had some teachers with questionable grammar (that was Florida though, California has higher standards) so you may not even be taught proper grammar in school.
Looks like Joan is moving on from "quality over quantity" to "investment" as her new cover for being a superficial label junkie. Too bad she also doesn't know what that term means either. I wouldn't consider that Burberry t-shirt an investment piece just because it is Burberry. It's just a cotton t-shirt that isn't going to be anymore durable than most well stitched cotton t-shirts at lower price points. You're literally just paying for the name not "quality." I still don't get why she didn't want that denim jacket that actually fit her properly and Amy (who has actual style) tried so hard to help her with her advice to no avail. I don't know why she insists on being swallowed by her clothes like it looks good on her. She needs to learn about her body proportions and what cuts and fits work for them. She also needs to learn that throwing a bunch of expensive trendy items on together doesn't make your outfit look polished or put together. I honestly think the only way she is able to throw away money frivolously on these clothes and bags is that most of her expenses are paid for by others. I fully believe her parents are footing the bill went it comes to rent on their apartment and all the related household expenses. She gets most of her skincare through sponsorships and the reward zone. And while she doesn't have any good spending habits or understanding value for her money, she's also incredibly cheap when it comes to anything other than designer brands, so she probably isn't doing a whole lot of splurging on other things. I also don't think she pays actual retail price for these items. She rarely ever goes into the actual store (though this may be because they don't allow filming) and is always waiting to go to the airport to shop duty free, so who knows how she is actually procurring these items. She would literally be blowing her entire monthly income solely on this stuff, which she can do if she doesn't have to worry about rent, food, phone, internet, healthcare, student loans, credit card bills, transportation, etc. I also peeped in her last couple of vlogs that her non-youtuber friends are over her filming them all the time. In Janice's wedding one, Kevin the groom was lowkey shading her when addressing her followers and the "shoutout to Joanday too." Then when she flashed over to Richard and Christine they threw up her "signature" finger heart farewell, then she was like "and that reminds me to end the vlog here and enjoy living in this moment" or something along those lines. Then in this recent one, Joanne kept hiding from the camera. So consequently, large chunks of her week went unseen except when she was with Amy and Jenn.
IIRC, I think they mentioned that Abe had finished college and was in Korea teaching English for Business and was in a pre-MBA program or applying to an MBA program? Anyway, I think the interviews are for graduate school because he is only like 2-3 years younger than Joan.
The last few LA vlog really highlighted for me how this girl has no boundaries when it comes to what she films to show her subscribers. She's lucky her stateside friends seem really chill, because there is no way I would allow one of my friends to film my ENTIRE wedding (which she had to have done to be able to have as much edited footage as she did) to generate (monetized) content for thousands of randos on the internet. She did the same thing with their engagements too (and made it all about her like it was a personal milestone to see her friend get engaged). She also couldn't have dinner with her father and brother (who live in a separate country and she rarely sees) without filming it, even when her father clearly doesn't want to be filmed. And not only can she not go to a meal without having both her cameras running (when she told the one friend to wait so she could switch cameras...), she TALKS to the camera like her audience is there live! This is all edited footage too, so she would have to be filming literally the ENTIRE TIME she is with people. And it is all mundane stuff not worth documenting. Christine was probably over this girl with a camera in her face 24/7 talking to people who are not there telling all of their business, instead of just having quality time eating an ice cream cone with her friends. She's lucky they indulge her this much, but at times it looks like it wears thin on them and they are probably glad they only have to see her like twice a year.
She majored in film studies which is like majoring in literature, but movies instead of books, so we she wasn't studying how to make films. The humanities aren't easier than STEM fields, they just involve using a different part of your brain and working on different skills that are more transferable particularly critical thinking, dealing with abstract ideas, and effective writing and communicating, something every organization needs in its employees. And unless you are going into some technical field, NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU MAJORED IN for like 90% of office jobs, they care if you have the ability to fulfill the responsibilities. I have a classmate who majored in Art History and Film, and works for Google. Another friend majored in political science and theater, got a job with Deloitte and now also works at Google. Honestly I know more people who work for Google with non-STEM majors than ones who did. Before going to college though, no one ever tells you that you can study one thing and then go and get a job in something completely unrelated, it just takes more creativity and confidence to sell yourself to employers. To get back on topic though, Joan clearly had to have put out Berkeley quality to get in and she majored in something that should have atleast made her a more effective communicator and have some depth. That's why I don't think she's stupid or incapable of doing better, she just chooses not to because the people around her, mostly her audience, enable her to put out low quality. It's just bizarre that you would think that someone who doesn't perceive what they do as a real job in comparison to what her friends from school do and is insecure about it wouldn't put more effort into taking their channel and content seriously rather than buying tacky designer clothes, especially when they had to have done so before. Or maybe she really thinks this is quality stuff.
UC Berkeley is really prestigious and competitive to get into. It's considered one of the Public Ivies where the quality is basically the same, but it is way cheaper than going to one of the elite private universities. Like as a California resident, if you aren't graduating in the top 10% of your class in high school, the odds of you getting in go down exponentially, even more if you are an out-of-state student. That's why some are puzzled that she got in considering how lazy and unmotivated she is. She isn't a legacy, she's not an athlete, there isn't a shortage of eligible Korean Americans especially in California, and she comes off very shallow. Whoever her college admissions counselor in high school was must have worked wonders on her application. I don't think Joan is an idiot, she was able to graduate on time so it's not like she couldn't hack it at that caliber of institution. But I think a part of her has impostor syndrome and knows that she's not on the level or vision of success typically associated with a school like that, which is why she is out here being a Label-Loving Leslie in her Gucci and getting sponsorships to get a sense of validation.