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This might seem random to note but do you guys suspect that the Blackpink/Dua Lips collab was partially to keep Jennie happy and not entirely for the group. Leaving marketing and trying to get an international fanbase aside, Jennie was the biggest fan of Dua of the 4 girls and was the most excited to meet her. The other girls were either awkward or timid, but still looked pleased. I could definitely be reaching but it seemed like the girls almost knew that the collab was mainly for Jennie and not necessarily for the group as a whole, like one of YG's favoritism moves again. It could just be a standard collab but part of me feels like it can't be coincidence that Jennie voiced her love for Dua to her fans then they end up collabing with her. Like I said, spure speculation. I just want to know other people's thoughts.
I was thinking about this too. I could be wrong but isn't Lisa technically more popular internationally than Jennie? Idk what the popularity is with Jennie in Korea but it always seemed like it wasn't until YG started pushing Jennie's image that she was outshined by her members in one way or another, whether it was Lisa's dancing, Rosé's vocals, or Jisoo's visuals/variety skills. Maybe that was *part* of why YG caped for her so hard to begin with, cause he needed a way for Jennie to stick out. Blackpink has no leader, so it wasn't like he could pull a CL 2.0. CL had more under her belt than just rapping too, so...yeah there was definitely favoritism but maybe also a slight popularity concern (?)
Yeah apparently the new CEO had a hand in 2NE1 disbanding (according to comments I've seen anyway), so it seems like this replacement is already ticking a few people off anyway. Honestly, if Blackpink keeps getting managed like this, I'm not sure what will happen, especially with the club scandal still going on.
I admit it got a little derailed, but I think it was brought up because it started off as an opinion then tied into the favoritism, which makes sense to me. And yes there has been favoritism with K-POP in the past. There always will be. But there's still a way to be smart with it, and I don't think smart moves were necessarily made. Blackpink has a strange case because YG has been straight up lying (well, allegedly I guess) about Blackpink's achievements as a group. Their popularity is potentially being inflated falsely, and that suspicion began to rise during the tour ticket sale scandal. Now obviously none of that is Jennie's doing, but for YG to have so much placed on Jennie for SOLO yet be messy for the group on their tour? That's just odd. CL debuted in 2009 with 2NE1 and didn't get her solo song out until 2013. Mind you, she had a hand in that solo with the lyrics alongside Teddy, and by 2013, 2NE1 was genuinely beasting with popularity anyway with hit singles and a full album. Meanwhile Jennie's solo was only written and produced by Teddy and seemed like a rushed project by him, yet the promotion for that one song was insane and Blackpink still hadn't had a full length album if I'm not mistaking (still doesn't I don't think). YG was trying to use the excuse of "well every member's gonna get their solo like this" when...I doubt that's the case at this point. YG used to play up the card of making sure his artists were "hungry" and "passionate" before their debut projects and that's why they'd be so delayed. Now, it looks a little sus because suddenly Solo took no time to come out and get promoted. YG ent. used to do a good job of having that family image, hence why he was called Papa YG, but more and more fans are realizing how shady he is. Jennie and Chanel is a small detail, and I can't speak for anyone else that talked about it but, my stance was that moves like that kinda hold Blackpink back as a budding unit, as opposed to competing groups like Twice and ITZY who despite having members that stand out, are still a driving force together right now and they are just as fresh in their time as Blackpink is. Honestly I think multiple factors hold back Blackpink in a way, but YG's treatment towards Jennie is one of them, in my humble opinion. Anyway, keeping the focus on Jennie, I wonder how YG stepping down is gonna shape the group dynamic. Is he still going to have a hand in their career?
@Cpta You're bringing up fair points, but I don't think anyone is taking them personally. If someone thinks Twice can pull off Chanel then that's their opinion. If you don't think so, then that's yours. I don't disagree that Blackpink is better for the Chanel image than Twice, I'm just not sure if that necessarily means certain members of Twice couldn't fit either. But putting Twice aside entirely, I just personally think that YG definitely had a hand in putting Jennie in the spotlight for the Chanel deal and it should have gone to the group as a whole because it reinforces the privilege Jennie has. I mean, yeah G-Dragon and CL were also front runners for brands in the past, Chanel being one of them, but that was well after their groups were established as a unit, no? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. And even then, Taeyang and Dara (who is also goofy) were also wearing the same luxury brands with them when YG members went to fashion shows. It just looked like an even playing field. With Blackpink it clearly doesn't, so it's just awkward to watch. Especially when, no shade, but yes Jennie is pretty...and that's about it. I don't see the same star power and charisma GD and CL had. That was part of the appeal YG Ent. had in the first place. They were known for not being the Korean standard, which gave them this "hip hop/avant garde" image as a whole. I mean, YG groups used to wear some pretty ugly yet eye capturing stuff, and they had the personalities to back it up. If YG was gonna strip that away and go for strictly pretty so bad, then at least make sure to have a good foundation. Imo, he dropped the ball on that big time and him constantly promoting Jennie is part of it imo. I don't think anyone in this thread straight up hates Jennie, just calling out YG's flaws in his favoritism.
I understand where you're coming from with your opinion, however, Chanel has a variety of clothes and looks that range from cutesy to chic. Yes they have their classic black and white tweed, but they also have pastel pieces and Barbie-esque accessories, so if the TWICE marketing team really wanted to, they could use some of the members to pull off the looks. I'll be frank, I don't even fw TWICE, but I feel like it can be done. TWICE doesn't even need that push in marketing because they're already annihilating in Korean media, and I feel like that's the difference between them and YG's flimsy marketing for Blackpink. Jennie needed a way to stand out, so he put her in Chanel and faded the other members. There's no reason why the other members couldn't be just as marketable in those ads, especially with Jisoo as their visual (and hell I still don't think Jisoo is the best visual in KPOP but I'd be straight up lying if I said she couldn't pull off the "chic Chanel look." Not to mention the group is called BLACKPINK ffs, so it would have been a cool concept to show the soft pink Chanel looks and then the chic black ones with all four of the girls but that's just my opinion). It was proven in plain sight that Lisa was given back up dancer clothes and that Jennie was favored by the Blackpink stylists. If YG let the rest of the girls shine together as a group, Chanel or not, they'd probably be in a better position as a whole despite the current scandal, but he really messed up. So yes, Jennie does look nice in the clothes, but I highly doubt she'd be the main focus if YG didn't pull his strings.
I can't stand music snobs as much as the next person but just because I don't like a lot of mainstream things it doesn't mean I'm trying to be a "hipster," I take myself too seriously, I live to shit on everything, or I'm always negative. I just genuinely think (especially in the pop genre) it's becoming more difficult to find something I like. I don't think my opinion is superior so why does it matter that much? Stop calling me a hater just cause I don't like what you like. I let you enjoy your things so let me enjoy mine. It's not that deep. So yeah, if I'd rather listen to artist X instead of artist Y, and I'm not being an ass about it, then leave me alone.
I'll say this, it's not that I dislike Jennie for being the it girl, I just don't see WHY she is YG's it girl. I'm not even saying that out of hate, I genuinely don't understand why. She has a nice face which is good for fashion campaigns and she's not a terrible dancer, but other than that...? I personally don't understand the hype. There have been other company it girls in the past like Suzy and Hyuna and I don't even stan them but I could understand why they got attention. Suzy can sing, her looks are right on par with the Korean standard, she may not have been the most vocal on variety shows but she DEFINITELY wasn't boring, and she had stage presence despite being the weakest dancer. Hyuna has her sex appeal, can dance, and puts on a great show, plus her solo songs are catchy. I won't go into depth about CL being the it girl within reason because I'm biased towards CL, but yeah, if the Jennie case was like my last two examples, I'd fold my cards and I'd get the hype. But I'm sorry guys, I just don't. Again, no hate, but I don't see anything that would make sense as to why YG is showering her in privilege THIS much. Pardon my wobbly analogy, but it's kinda like if I were to give my boyfriend a solid gold sports car just cause he opened the door for me once. Like, no he's not a terrible boyfriend, but it wouldn't warrant something that big. Jennie works hard, I'm sure, but to get this much from YG in comparison is just something I'm not understanding.
THIS. I agree, which is why I will always say YG's biggest mistake with "trying to make Blackpink the new 2NE1" is he forgot the personality difference.
Another unpopular opinion: As a western fan, sometimes it's annoying when other western fans throw around the word "irrelevant" towards the foreign idols of groups and seem to forget that they may very well be hella popular in their respective countries (Japan, Thailand, China, Australia, The Philippines, etc). Yes, the western market may be huge, but it's not the entire world. Foreign idols already get enough crap as it is.